St John's Higher Broughton

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This church is now closed. I have spoken with a gentleman who is going to try and get access into the church.

Attachments:

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The names on the war memorial have been totally weathered away.

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The following message about St John's was posted on the Manchesters forum:

themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=5605.30

It looks as though the church is up for sale.

Cheers
Pete

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major hartshorns name wasnt added to the CWGC registers until many years later,hes not named in the original CWGC war graves register,his name was later added as an additional casualty[date unknown]
although he lived in preston,he was a broughton lad,before he married in 1904,he lived at 59 camp st,broughton.
he died in preston
ime told that he has a memorial plaque in the church

mack

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Thanks Guys,

The guy never got back to me about access. The last I heard the church was being sold to a local art group/charity. Need to do some digging on this one.

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St Johns Higher Broughton

E P Audrian Sergeant MGC 20/1/20

Ernest Peter Audrain on medal roll Royal Lancs reg Sergeant 11797 MGC 176642
CWG Spec .Mem
Higher Broughton St John Churchyard
He was born 1890 in St Helier Jersey and died in Salford


H Griffiths Aircraft man 2nd Class 4/8/19

CWG Harold Aircraftman Royal Air Force 132896 OBE
Age35 Husband of Celia Griffiths of 84 Grosvenor St Leicester Rd Higher Broughton
Spec. Mem
Higher Broughton St John Churchyard

Major A H Hartshorn 7/2/21
Quartermaster and Hon Lieutenant RAMC (TF) from medal roll
Arthur Hastings Hartshorn died as above in Preston
Born 1872 married 1904 to Margaret Jane Ormandy in Liverpoll
Probate 21/3/21
Arthur Hastings Hartshorn of 6 East Cliff Preston to Noah Robert Cox ,assistant railway district superintendent effects £929 8s 10d

Captain A B Wightman 2/5/21
CWG Captain A B Manchester Regiment 2/9th battalion M.C
Spec. Mem
Higher Broughton St John Churchyard
From Service records
Arthur Bennett Wightman born 1894 enlisted 1/9/14 aged 20 years 4 months occupation Salesman
3/8/15 L/Corp to commission
Address372 Bury New Rd Higher Broughton
Next of Kin Father Arthur ,brother Herbert ,sister Mabel
Height 5 feet 7 and 1/2 inches complexion fresh eyes blue ,hair brown.

Wendy

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sgt 17460 albert pole.
enlisted october 1914
15th royal scots
aged 16
born 23-8-1898
educated waterloo rd school,salford
resided 20 moreton st,strangeways
parents arthur,harry+martha pole
later 7 hamilton st,higher broughton
wounded 1st july 1916 and again on 4th august
MM awarded 1916
posted to 16th royal scots
gassed 21st march 1918
bar to MM awarded during this time for volunteering to bring in wounded men
posted to 4th royal scots
killed in action on 21st sept 1918 north east of moeuvres
on the roll of honour of st.johns church,broughton

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We now have a list of names that would have been on this memorial (barring any amendments or additions at a later date). Why the church asks for any additions/amendments in the attached article is beyond me as the description of the unveiling of the memorial appears in the same publication.

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Description of the unveiling, 1920.

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If anyone has ten minutes to kill would they kindly check the following list for errors or ommisions?


WILLIAM THOMAS ARMOUR
JAMES ATKINSON
W D BAKER
J BARBER
EDDIE BARBER
PERCY BARLOW
GEORGE RADFORD BARRETT
HAROLD BARRETT
HAROLD BAUME
CLEMENT HENRY BAXTER
RICHARD BAXTER
A BEAHAN
ERIC BELL
H V BERRY
JOHN BISSON
EDWARD BLACKBURN
FREDERICK BLACKSHAW
WORSLEY BLEACKLEY
GEORGE BOGSHAW
LAWRENCE BOOTHROYD
ALBERT BRANDRETH
TOM C BRIDGE
BERTRAM VINCENT BROCKLEBANK
FRANK BROWN
J BRYSON
C BRYSON
H BRYSON
ALBERT BURGAR
GEORGE WILFRED CARESWELL
WILLIAM HENRY CHOYCE
GEORGE FREDERICK COLLINS
EZEKIEL CORLEY
HAROLD COWELL
JAMES GRIMSHAW CUNLIFFE (M.C.)
EDWARD GILBERT CUNLIFFE
HARRY CHATTERTON DARBYSHIRE
HARRY DARBYSHIRE
DAVID TOCHER DOUGLAS
JOHN DUNKERLEY
J E STANLEY DYER
E EARNSHAW
ARTHUR LLOYD EDWARDS
JOHN EGAN
HERBERT ELLISON
JAMES ARTHUR FAWCETT
HAROLD FIELDING
JOHN JAMES FOSBROOKE
JAMES FULTON
JOSEPH GELDER
ALLAN GLENDINNING
LEONARD GORE
HENRY DRUMMOND GRANDY
CHARLES GRANT
FREDERICK GRANT
JAMES GRIMES
JAMES ROBERT HALMSHAW
WILLIAM W HAMER
FREDERICK NORMAN HASSALL
TOM HARRISON
ROWLAND N HAY
ERNEST HEAD
LEONARD V HIND
THOMAS DOUGLAS HOLLAND
JAMES WILLIAM HOLROYD
ERIC HYDE
WILLIAM EDWARD HYDE
WILLIAM JACKSON
THOMAS HAMMOND JAMES
HAROLD JOHNSON
HARRY HINDLEY JOHNSON
ROBERT JOHNSON
ERNEST JONES
SYDNEY KEIGWIN
WALTER D KENDALL
HUBERT KENYON
CHARLES HINCHLIFFE LAMB
JAMES HINCHLIFFE LAMB
HERBERT VICTOR LARSEN
ARTHUR LAWSON
W A LEMAN
ALFRED NORMAN LOWE
ALFRED LUCAS
ERNEST W LUCAS
HENRY MADDOCKS
WILLIAM FREDERICK MALLETT
ARTHUR JAMES MANSERGH
FRANK MATTHEWS
ALBERT EDWARD MEINEN
FRANK MERRICK
ALBERT MOORE
PETER MOORE
WILLIAM MOORE
RICHARD G MORTIMER
JOHN HENRY MORTIMER
TOM MOSS
SYDNEY OWEN
WALTER P OWEN
ALBERT PARROTT
EDMUND PATTISON
RICHARD WALKER PAUL
JOSEPH PENDLETON
ERNEST J PERCIVAL
HENRY EWART PICKWICK
GEORGE PLIMMER
ALBERT POLE (M.M., 2 BARS)
WILFRED POTTER
WALTER PRITCHARD
JACK PROSSER
HAROLD H PROADFOOT
ALFRED QUICK (D.C.M.)
R G ROBINSON
FREDERICK NORMAN ROSCOE
HAROLD ROSCOE
CHARLES W ROWLANDS
JOHN ALBERT ROYLE
J K SENIOR
R M SENIOR
HAROLD SHEPPARD
FRED SHORROCKS
JAMES ROCKCLIFFE SMITH (M.C.)
HUBERT FRANCIS SMITH
JAMES HARDY SMITHIES
HAROLD SNELL
JOHN STEWART
HARRY BOWKER STOREY
ELLIS STOTT
JOHN STOTT
GEORGE EDWIN SUTHERLAND
GEORGE WILLIAM SYKES
WILLIAM TAYLFORTH
PETER TAYLOR
TOM TAYLOR
ALBERT THOMPSON
FRANK THOMPSON
JOHN THOMPSON
CHARLES K VALENTINE
ERNEST JAME WALKER
ALAN JAMES WELSH
HERBERT WESTCOMBE
ROBERT WHITTAKER
ARTHUR WIBBERLEY
J CYRIL WILLETT
SAMUEL WINTERBOTTOM
JACK WHITELEY
PERCY WHITE
CHARLES WOOD
FRANK WOOD
HAROLD ETHELBERT WOOLLEY

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It looks spot on to me Garry, but it is late and my eyesies are a bit tired and squiffy, I'll triple check it again tomorrow with fresh eyes

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Thanks Emma,

No need for a triple check as Ben has also confirmed that all looks well.

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WILLIAM ARMOUR
Rank: Private
Service No: 2661
Date of Death: 09/05/1915
Age: 18
Regiment/Service: Seaforth Highlanders "C" Coy. 4th Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 38 and 39.
Memorial LE TOURET MEMORIAL
Additional Information:Son of Thomas and Lillie Armour, of 10, Gainsborough St., Higher Broughton, Manchester.
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Manchester, Lancs
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

Disembarked - France 13/03/1915, entitled to the 1915 trio.
Born in Wymington, Bedfordshire, in 1897, William is shown in the 1911 census as living at 28 Scholes St, Cheetham, with his parents Thomas and Lillie, and, siblings Eva, Jack, Christopher and Dorothy. Prior to the war he had worked as an office boy.



JAMES ATKINSON
Rank: Private
Service No: 37607
Date of Death: 23/10/1916
Age: 25
Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers
2nd Bn. Grave Reference XX. L. 1.
Cemetery BIENVILLERS MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information: Son of Thomas S. and Ann Atkinson, of 7, Beaumont St., Higher Broughton, Manchester.
Birth Place: Salford, Lancs
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Salford
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

Prior to the war James had worked as a pattern card maker. The 1911 census shows him living with his parents and sister, Lily, at 7 Beaumont St, Higher Broughton.

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W D Baker

I suspect that this is the following man, but I am yet to find a definitive link.

W D BAKER
Rank: Sapper
Service No: 442172
Date of Death: 13/05/1917
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers 429th Field Coy.
Grave Reference Sp. Mem. A. 8.
Cemetery EPEHY WOOD FARM CEMETERY, EPEHY

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JOHN BARBER
Rank: Private
Service No: 29399
Date of Death: 01/10/1918
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regiment) 8th Bn.
Grave Reference I. C. 16.
Cemetery MASNIERES BRITISH CEMETERY, MARCOING
Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Barber, of Manchester; husband of Annie Clements (formerly Barber) of 50, Cedar St., High Town, Manchester.
Birth Place: Lower Broughton, Manchester
Death Date: 1 Oct 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Salford
Type of Casualty: Killed in action


EDWARD BARBER
Rank: Private
Service No: 27511
Date of Death: 04/12/1917
Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment 2nd Bn.
Panel Reference Panel 120 to 124 and 162 to 162A and 163A.
Memorial TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Birth Place: Manchester
Death Date: 6 Dec 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Manchester
Number: 27514
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

CWGC and SDGW give different date of death (service record states 06/12/1917 as DOD) and service number (medal card states 27514).
The son of Edward and Mary Barber, 42 Hadfield St, Broughton. Edward attested 29th June 1916 aged 30. In civilian life he had worked as a postman and lived at 14 Turner St with his wife Celia (nee Danker).
Posted to France 12/11/1916.