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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 2, 2013 0:32:54 GMT
Hello
My name is Neil Burton and I am originally from Swinton and Salford. I clicked on the Eccles Journal Google link and I was amazed to see on the very first Page my grandfather (who I never met) then in ascending order my uncle and a great uncle! The caption for my great uncle said he was one of four brothers serving, unless the paper had gotten my uncle confused as one of the brothers? The other brother may be called Edward?
My relatives are:
Robert Edward Burton MM - 11th Manchester (Home Defence)
R Bruce Burton - Royal Artillery POW Dunkirk
William Burton - Lancashire Fusiliers Signals Section
4th brother?
Thank you to the person who posted the pages of the Journal.
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Post by shred on Feb 2, 2013 14:08:42 GMT
Neil, Here is your grandfather's entry for the Military Medal in the London Gazette. I am sure that we can find the other brother.
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Post by shred on Feb 2, 2013 14:14:07 GMT
William Burton
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Post by shred on Feb 2, 2013 14:18:02 GMT
R Bruce Burton From memory I am sure that the darkness of this image was due to the poor quality of the microfilm. I will see if I can get a better image, but it may not be possible.
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 2, 2013 15:16:11 GMT
Hello
Thank you so much!
The other brother may be Edward, like most family legends that are difficult to verify, he was supposed to have been killed during the Norwegian Campaign?
One brother was KIA on the Somme and his name is on the Thiepval Memorial. There is also an F Burton in the RoH, I am not sure if he is a relation?
I remember going to South Avenue in the 1960's to stay at my gran's no TV only a radio different world!
I have papers somewhere that I will try to upload, one is an account of my great grandfather surviving the sinking of the Royal Edward.
Thank you once again for your help.
Neil Burton
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 2, 2013 15:27:53 GMT
William Burton was the son of Robert E Burton, William was at Dunkirk and was shell shocked but he recovered sufficiently to recover and be involved in supply drops over France. He ended the war as a tank crew member in the Guards Armoured Division and was involved in the operation to link up with the parta's during Operation Market Garden. I attended his funeral at Peel Green and he rteceived a military funeral, Union Flag draped coffin and a guard of honour from SAS veterans? Perhaps that was to do with the supply drops behind enemy lines, I did hear a rumour he was a Load Master?
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 2, 2013 15:29:45 GMT
Apologies for the awful spelling, typing this on a Blackberry device, will have my tablet for next week!
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Post by shred on Feb 2, 2013 22:32:46 GMT
Neil,
I am not so sure about Edward. The Norwegian campaign took place in 1940, there aren't any Edward Burtons recorded by the CWGC as dying in 1940.
Do you know their mother's surname? This may help us find the last brother.
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 3, 2013 9:40:23 GMT
Hi
I have my great granddad"so papers, I will check the names.
Do you have any details for Free Burton who is on the ww1 Eccles RoH?
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 3, 2013 9:41:15 GMT
F Burton
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Post by shred on Feb 3, 2013 14:39:01 GMT
Neil, A quick review of the Burton family. Robert Edward Burton (your grandfather) fought in the WW1 and served with the Manchester Home Defence during WW2. John Henry Burton (you great uncle, Robert Edward's brother) was killed during the First World War. JOHN HENRY BURTON Rank: Private Service No: 11014 Date of Death: 01/07/1916 Age: 20 Regiment/Service: Lancashire Fusiliers 15th Bn. Panel Reference Pier and Face 3 C and 3 D. Memorial THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Additional Information:Son of Robert John and Dorothy Burton, of 112, Partington Lane, Swinton, Manchester. Further to the caption below the picture of R Bruce Burton "one of four brothers serving." We know that two of the brothers are: R Bruce Burton and William Burton. We have two to find. If you can provide the maiden name of your granny Burton we may be able to find the other brothers. BTW, I do not think F Burton is part of your immediate family, he may be a cousin. FRANK BURTON Rank: Private Service No: 6726 Date of Death: 01/07/1916 Age: 22 Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment 16th Bn. Panel Reference Pier and Face 13 A and 14 C. Memorial THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Additional Information: Son of Harry and Clara Orme Burton, of Rock Dale, Folly Lane, Swinton, Manchester.
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 4, 2013 18:56:14 GMT
Hi Shred
Thank you for all your help.
Apologies for being something of a slacker regarding knowing things about my own family! I am working in Dover so I am out of the loop somewhat. I do have my Great Grandfather's discharge papers at my office in Hampshire, I will scan them in to the Site.
On the feed for St Peter's Church Swinton Lychgate there is a fair bit of information about the Button's. One of the other Button's is William RFA and served in Salonika.
The inscription R E Burton on the memorial was my Grandfather, he was posted missing, he was North Staffords and South Staffords, perhaps in the confusion of the war his name was added before his fate was known?
I asked my mother for the surname of my grandmother and it is Walters
The other WW2 era brother was Edward, he was a baby during WW1 as he is mentioned in a letter from my Great Grandfather after he wrote home after the sinking of the Royal Edward.
The F Burton may be a cousin as Folly Lane is adjacent to South Avenue.
Neil
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Post by crazyk9 on Feb 4, 2013 19:32:35 GMT
Predictive text! Aaaaaaarrrrggghhh!
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Post by shred on Feb 4, 2013 22:19:48 GMT
Don't worry Neil. I can follow your meaning. Here is your family in 1901, they are living at 1 Lewis St, Eccles. As you can see your great grandfather is with his regiment in Africa (Boer War). This confirms Wendy's post on the St Peter's Lych Gate memorial. There are three brothers shown: Charles William Burton..... Is this William? Robert Edward Burton John Henry Burton Edward was probably born after your great grandfather returned from Africa. I will keep looking.
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Post by shred on Feb 4, 2013 22:41:35 GMT
Neil,
I will email you with some information.
Garry
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