CSM 11680 frank blakeley 21st lancs fusiliers 60 the park eccles son of laura and the late william blakeley died of pneumonia on 18th july 1918 aged 32 grave ref.old.92
pte 6866 herbert fish 16th manchesters[C.coy] 46 albert st,eccles enlisted 2-9-14 occupation,bank clerk son of the late martin+elizabeth born 26-8-1886 after completing his training,he was granted leave which he spent in blackpool,but was taken ill on 14-12-15,he was sent to the 2nd western gen hospital,manchester,where he was diagnosed with tubercular peritonitis+tubercular phthisis,he was discharged on 21-1-16 as completely unfit for any kind of military service and civilian work,his former employers would not pay him any money,so his brother martin wrote to the records office to ask them for help,herbert was that ill,he couldnt even lift the pen and write himself,he died shortly afterwards on 15th february 1916 aged 29 grave ref.510
these two soldiers are now commemorated on the screen wall at southern cemetery,manchester
So if a cemetery that contains CWGC graves is grassed over the names are then placed on a local screen wall? I presume CWGC keep a record of this. I ask because this information doesn't show up on their database.
Name: FISH, HERBERT Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment Unit Text: "C" Coy. 16th Bn. Age: 29 Date of Death: 15/02/1916 Service No: 6866 Additional information: Son of the late Martin and Elizabeth Fish, of Eccles. Alternative Commemoration - buried in Eccles (St. Mary The Virgin) Churchyard. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. Cemetery: MANCHESTER SOUTHERN CEMETERY
I would have thought that this information would be shown for relatives to know where he is actually buried.
hiya gary. from what i can gather,the churchyard was landscaped many years ago. the CWGC will have the exact location of these graves,but they only give out the original burial site. i have all the original CWGC registers from 1928-1930s for most of great brittain and ireland,and these show the exact grave location.