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Post by shred on Jun 8, 2013 17:51:31 GMT
Hi Simon,
Welcome to the forums.
Wow! That is some family tree that you have researched. Well done.
As you correctly point out the only way to find a burial in one of Salford's public cemeteries is to contact Agecroft Cemetery's office (for which they may charge). I know that the Friends of Salford Cemeteries were in discussions with the relevant departments of the council to get these records digitised, but I do not know if these discussions progressed. Two of our members are from the Friends group, they may see this thread and give a definitive answer.
Another member works at the Bolton History Library and may be able to provide an answer with regards to the Bolton public cemeteries. He is away on holiday at present, I will point him towards this thread upon his return.
Sorry that I cannot be more helpful.
Regards,
Garry
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Post by Hawker Hurricane on Jun 9, 2013 14:31:04 GMT
All of Bolton's municipal cemetery records have been digitised on www.deceasedonline.co.uk. A simple search is free, but you have to pay for the full records. However, the amount you pay to the website is much less than the charge for enquiries used to be at the Cemeteries Office. The burial registers can be viewed free at Bolton History Centre, but these are only one part of the records. Bolton History Centre also has copies of many Bolton area church records for burials. Many of these are transcribed and accessible free at www.lan-opc.org.uk. Hope this helps. Jim Sent from my Sony LT30p Xperia T smartphone using the Proboards app for Android. |
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Post by Hawker Hurricane on Jun 9, 2013 14:57:11 GMT
On a slightly separate note, with regard to free versus pay sites. It is worth remembering that for the most part the internet is not free. Somewhere along the way there are numerous costs. Digitisation is very expensive. Graphics files are memory intensive, so there is the cost of the server space. The image has to be transcribed into a searchable database, and hosted online with sufficient bandwidth. All of this incurs costs, which have to be paid and maintained, or the website will eventually get deleted. How these costs are met varies, but somewhere along the way a bill is being paid by someone to put the info there.
Even the first sort of semi digitisation, microfilm, is extremely expensive; the price being between £150 and £300 per reel of film, subject to the number of frames (photographs) to a reel and the image size and quality required.
I'm afraid the old saying remains largely true, there's no such thing as a free lunch, and most (not all) of the better internet sources are seldom free. Oh for a world like Star Trek where money is abolished!!!! B-)
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Post by Ben on Jun 9, 2013 15:10:23 GMT
Have to agree with Hawker Hurricane on this, nothing is free in life( including death) some where down the line everything/someone has to be paid for. If they are not on line from the local authorities, then your only chance is from sites like this and others that have transcribed at there own coast. Even if you get some one to go to a library, they still have the coast of getting there/parking/printing.
Donations are what keep these forums & webs sites going and able to carry on there work.
Ben
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Post by Hawker Hurricane on Jun 9, 2013 15:19:03 GMT
I regularly have people pull their faces at paying 70p for a print of a church marriage register entry from the microfilm!!!! The same information from a registrars office is £10 +. I can't understand why people think everything should be free.  Sent from my Sony LT30p Xperia T smartphone using the Proboards app for Android. |
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Post by Ben on Jun 9, 2013 15:52:01 GMT
I know where you coming from Hawker Hurricane. I still get amazed at how people don't understand or are not interested how the any records get where they are or who much time it has taken to get them where they are for use all to access. The time it then take people to go and research or look up the record for someone. The time involved in photographing the records/graves. I know how much time all this take from research i have done for others over the years & all at our own expense. After saying this, i do think Salford council are really slow at putting there burial records on line or available at any library or records office. I think they are really poor at jumping at an opportunity to either do this them self's or offering one of the commercial genealogy companies to put these records on line nd maybe make a few pounds in these hard times?
Ben
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Post by Ben on Jun 9, 2013 17:35:57 GMT
Hi I have recently joined this site having researched my family tree over the last 4 years or so. Some 12,000+ relatives later I'm still searching! 3/4 of my family originate from the Cheshire and Lancashire areas so I have found the Lancashire Online and both the Lancashire & Cheshire BMD sites very helpful. When transcribed, I've found the Lancashire Online very useful to give that extra bit of information hat isn't available through Ancestry, but this of course is only covering parish records rather than public cemeteries which opened rapidly at the start of the industrial revolution, traditional churchyards unable to cope with the massive increase in numbers. To return to the original thread here, is anyone aware of free searchable databases for burials in the Lancashire area? I'm aware that Manchester City Council, to their credit have made available the burial records for all public cemeteries in the city and the Wigan World websites list all burial records for the several cemeteries in their area. As far as I'm aware that's it forLancashire? Salford and Bolton can only be checked with reference to the individual councils who make a charge for the information. My extended family research has over 3,000 soles who died (and are presumably) in Salford or Bolton! Any suggestions? Simon That is a lot of family members, are they all close relatives or cousins of cousins of cousins? The link Hawker Hurricane posted also has Trafford burials where possibly some of your 3,000 may have ended there lives. Ben |
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Post by trishloughman on Jul 24, 2019 20:47:12 GMT
It's mainly the Irish side I'm having trouble with now to be honest. Ancestry doesn't even seem to be coming with anything other than what has been posted. Daft question - Ancestry saying it covers UK and Ireland, so I would take that as including the ROI, but is it NI? I realise this is an old thread, but perhaps you will be sent an email when my reply is posted. I am a Loughman with roots in Rathdowney. Can I help? |
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