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Post by shred on Oct 31, 2015 12:43:24 GMT
Yes, they were cousins. Thomas senior (of the Star Inn) and Charles (from Quay St) were brothers.
This is from the 1871 - their name has been noted as "Passey". I have highlighted the two brothers' names in red.
Name: Charles Passey
[Charles Pawsey]
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: Richard Passey
Mother's name: Sarah Passey
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 87
Piece: 4021
Folio: 60
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Passey 35
Sarah Passey 33
James Passey 16
Charles Passey 11
Eliza Passey 9
Elizabeth Passey 7
Mary A Passey 5
Sarah Passey 3
Thomas Passey 1
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Post by shred on Oct 31, 2015 13:00:29 GMT
Whilst Charles's wounding sounds quite horrific it appears that he carried on serving until the end of the war. He was discharged "class z" on the 24/01/1919.  |
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Post by shred on Oct 31, 2015 13:07:48 GMT
I cannot find any mention of either of the men in the indexes for the Salford Reporter, Eccles Journal and Manchester Evening News.
I will try and find some extra information on Thomas over the weekend.
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Post by shred on Oct 31, 2015 15:02:20 GMT
Thomas Pawsey (140450), 2nd Aircraftman*, Royal Air Force.
Shown in the 1911 census as apprentice turner, the son of Thomas and Maria Pawsey, 125 Greengate, Salford.
Joined the Royal Flying Corps aged 21years and 3months on the 13/03/1918 and transferred to the Royal Air Force on the 01/04/1918 (the day the RAF came in to being).
Height - 5ft 2 1/2inches.
Chest - 32 1/2inches
Hair - Brown
Eyes - Grey
Marks - 1st and 2nd fingers right hand missing
Served in one of the RAF's Aeroplane Supply Depots (1ASD) and later in a Motor Transport repair shop (Base MT repair shop)
Transferred to reserve 8/12/1919
*Aircraftman 2 (AC 1) & Aircraftman 1 (AC 2) Both of these were training ranks. Normally after a year the individual would be promoted to: Leading Aircraftman/woman (LAC)
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Post by julia955 on Oct 31, 2015 15:11:35 GMT
Hi just looking again and Thomas is actually Charless nephew , and is actually the grandson of Thomas Pawsey the landlord of the Star Inn on Greengate, commonly known for years later as Pawseys.
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Post by shred on Oct 31, 2015 15:15:48 GMT
Julia,
How did you make that connection? All the documents I have seen show Thomas as the son of Thomas and Maria.
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Post by julia955 on Oct 31, 2015 15:34:04 GMT
Hi I'm just smiling to myself about the Passey / Pawsey records . This is what us Pawseys are up against and what started this thread in the first place Pawsey is such a difficult name. Thank you for all your help. I am sure now that the Thomas Pawsey on the Greengate memorial is Thomas Pawsey the landlord .
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Post by julia955 on Oct 31, 2015 16:13:44 GMT
Hi , I'm sorry I'm getting confused , you are correct. The Thomas from the Greengate memorial is the son of Thomas and Maria. The Thomas in the Chapel street WW2 memorial is the son of the Greengate memorial Thomas if that makes any sense. It's all so confusing !!
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Post by lester on Oct 31, 2015 17:34:20 GMT
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Post by julia955 on Nov 1, 2015 16:46:06 GMT
Hello , thank you very much. Thomas and Maria Pawsey were my grandads aunt and uncle. I love all this history
regards Julia
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Post by shred on Nov 7, 2015 11:07:12 GMT
Greengate Memorial John Turner (killed) Born Salford enlisted Salford Sergeant RHA&RFA 25198 Died 14/9/1916 CWG Age 23 Son of Robert and Alice Turner of 24 Strawberry Hill Pendleton V1.A.15 Quarry Cemetery Montaban Wendy   |
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2015 21:27:20 GMT
Greengate Memorial William Peet can not link one from 1901 census born 1878 Manchester lived at Lipton Buildings Greengate occupation Blacksmiths labourer Wendy 1918 absent voters shows: 438424, Lance-Corporal William Peet, Royal Engineers, registered at 22 Paradise, Greengate. |
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2015 21:35:48 GMT
Greengate Memorial Richard Bowen Born 1896 11Henry St Patricroft aged 19 years 9 months enlisted 1/7/1915 occupation iron moulder enlisted Salford Lancashire Fusiliers 21837 Wendy 1918 Absent Voters shows: 82418, Richard Bowen, 17th Royal Fusiliers, registered at 14 Sandywell, Greengate, Salford. |
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2015 21:47:00 GMT
Greengate Memorial William Barker can not link one Wendy 1918 Absent Voters gives: 74972, Bombadier, William Barker, Royal Field Artillery, registered at 34 Bridgewater Street, Greengate, Salford. |
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Post by shred on Nov 8, 2015 21:52:27 GMT
Greengate Memorial Alfred Bowater no records found resident Salford 1911 census born 1887 Wendy 1918 Absent Voters shows: T4/071038, Driver, Alfred Bowater, Army Service Corps, registered at 14 Hodson Street, Greengate, Salford. |
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