|
Post by shred on May 31, 2015 10:46:17 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial J T Motler John Fred 2nd Lieutenant Manchester Regiment 4th Battalion died 30/7/1916 CWG Age 21 Son of John and Mary Ann Motler of the Shears Hotel 580 Oldham Rd Manchester XXX1V.E.3 Serre Rd Cemetery No 2 Wendy
|
|
|
Post by shred on Jun 15, 2015 19:26:18 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial A N Lowe Alfred Norman Salford Corporal Rifle Brigade 9th Battalion B/1614 died 25/9/1915 CWG Age 19 son of George William and Jane Ellen Lowe of 4 Yew Bank Lower Broughton Rd Panel 46 to 48 and 50 Ypres Menin Gate Memorial Wendy
|
|
|
Post by shred on Jun 15, 2015 19:27:12 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial A N Lowe Alfred Norman Salford Corporal Rifle Brigade 9th Battalion B/1614 died 25/9/1915 CWG Age 19 son of George William and Jane Ellen Lowe of 4 Yew Bank Lower Broughton Rd Panel 46 to 48 and 50 Ypres Menin Gate Memorial Wendy
|
|
|
Post by shred on Jun 16, 2015 20:31:02 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial B Hopewell Bertram born Salford resident Pendleton Private Cameronians 1st Battalion 25576 formerly 5046 Royal Fusiliers died 28/10/1916 CWG Age 23 son of Christopher M and Eleanor Hopewell of 10 Grange Rd St Annes on Sea. Native of Pendleton. His brother Charles also fell U.17 Carnoy Military Cemetery G Hough Gilbert enlisted Salford Private Lancashire Fusiliers 2/8th Battalion 305608 died 9/10/1917 CWG Panel 54 to 60 and 163A Tyne Cot Memorial J Howard too many with Salford connections F James can not link one R L Johnston Robert Loudon 2nd Lieutenant Manchester Regiment 17th Battalion died 13/12/1915 CWG Age24 son of Robert and Julia Mary Johnston of Tetua Park St Kersal Salford 1.K.28 Foncquevillers Military Cemetery Probate 4/3/1916 Robert Loudon Johnston of Vetna Park St ( 2 different spellings)Kersal Salford 2nd Lieutenant Manchester Regiment died 13/12/1915 at Bayencourt France while in actual military service to Florence Margaret Johnston effects £1027 5s 11d H Kenyon Hubert born Manchester resident Salford Private Cheshire Regiment 2/5th Battalion 5378 died 18/11/1916 at home CWG D2610 Camebridge City Cemetery R B Lett Ralph Brotherton born Salford resident Salford Private East Yorkshire Regiment 1/4th Battalion 42091 died 27/5/1918 CWG Age 19 son of Henry B and Amy Lett of 50 Whitelow Rd Chorlton Cum Hardy Soissons Memorial G Lewis George born Salford resident Pendleton gunner RGA 47064 died 12/4/1917 CWG Pier and Face 3C and 3D Thiepval Memorial A P Lindley Arthur Platt Ordinary Seaman Royal Navy HMS Defence died 31/5/1916 CWG Age 22 son of Joseph and Elizabeth Lindley of 319 Bolton Rd Kearsley 13 Plymouth Naval Memorial Wendy There were two Pendleton men called George Lewis killed in WW1: Gunner Lewis KIA 12/4/17 and Pte Lewis, KIA First Day of the Somme and remembered on the Thiepval memorial. Details of both can be found elsewhere on the SWARM website. The George Lewis above is a combination of the two men. iN FACT, THE oLD sALFORDIAN WAS gUNNER lEWIS.
|
|
|
Post by shred on Jun 21, 2015 10:49:14 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial J Howard too many with Salford connections Wendy Name: John Howard Birth Place: Salford Residence: Manchester Death Date: 20 Jul 1916 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Manchester Rank: Private Regiment: London Regiment Battalion: 20th Battalion Regimental Number: 5037
|
|
|
Post by shred on Jul 6, 2015 20:46:49 GMT
This is the wrong T Yates, I'm afraid. The man on the Old Salfordians' Plaque is the Thomas Yates who has a personal memorial plaque in St. Luke's, Weaste, illustrated elsewhere on this website. He attended our School for its first two years, 1904 to 1906 and then joined Parr's Bank. In 1911 he emigrated to Regina, Saskatchewan (on the Hesperian which would later be sunk by the same u-boat as the Lusitania), and there he kept up his tennis and cricket in what was still a very Anglo community. He came back across the Atlantic with the CEF but got a "Blighty one" in France in May 1915. Recuperating at his parents' house on Liverpool Street, he used the time to further his accountancy studies. In 1917 this 6' 3" tall sportsman was commissioned in the 28th Battalion (Saskatchewans). He was part of the Canadian assault on Passchendaele village itself, on the 99th day of the 3rd Battle of Ypres (Passchendaele). He was consolidating his men's position in the village when he was shot through the head by a sniper. 68 Saskatchewans were killed that day, along with many Winnipegs and Albertas.
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 29, 2015 21:12:45 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial H Kenyon Hubert born Manchester resident Salford Private Cheshire Regiment 2/5th Battalion 5378 died 18/11/1916 at home CWG D2610 Camebridge City Cemetery Wendy This is the wrong H Kenyon, I'm afraid. Our H Kenyon was 2595 Lance Corporal Harry Kenyon, born in Bradford (the Manchester Bradford) in 1889, the son of Thomas & Victoria Alexandria Kenyon. After leaving our School he got a job with Charles Mackintosh & Co., the rubber and waterproofing people. (Their name can still be seen emblazoned on their building as one travels between Oxford Road station and Deansgate station on the train.) In due course they transferred him to their Leicester works. He enlisted with the 1/4th Battalion of the Leicester Regiment and had applied for a commission when he was KIA on 13th October 1915 in the massacre known as the Battle of Hohenzollern Redoubt, which the official history of the Great War politely described as "a useless slaughter of infantry". He is on the Company's Roll of Honour from 1917, and of course he's on our memorial in Salford University's Peel Building, but I fear that may be it. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by shred on Aug 30, 2015 12:33:34 GMT
Old Salfordian,
Many thanks for pointing this out. It is appreciated.
Garry
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 30, 2015 16:46:56 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial P E Appleton not found Wendy It's no surprise he was not found, because there is no P E Appleton on the CWGC website. Having looked for likely Appleton candidates I came to the conclusion that it was probably Percy Robert Agnew Appleton. Fortunately, the reports of his death in the M/c Guardian of 19th May and the Salford Reporter of 26th May 1917 leave no doubt that it was him, because they say he attended our School. 2/LT Appleton had originally been reported as missing in action on 3rd May, but it turned out he had been killed instantly. As one would imagine from the circumstances of his death, he has no known grave. His name is also on the memorial at St. Thomas's Church, Pendleton. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 30, 2015 17:37:40 GMT
or: Name: BARRETT, HAROLD Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment Unit Text: "A" Coy. 16th Bn. Age: 24 Date of Death: 18/01/1916 Service No: 7179 Additional information: Son of Samuel and Isabella Barrett, of 14, The Polygon, Lower Broughton, Salford, Manchester. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: II. H. 10. Cemetery: CERISY-GAILLY MILITARY CEMETERY Yes, it was 7179 Pte. Harlold Renshaw Barrett, not Herbert Barrett. The report of his death in the Salford Chronicle of 29th January 1916 confirms that he went to our School. He was a teacher at the Cheetham Hill Wesleyan School and is on the memorial in the the Old Town Hall, Bexley Square. In fact, 9 of the 20 men in the Education Dept. section of that memorial were former pupils of our School. This is easily explained, because when the School was founded in 1904, one of its purposes was to provide pupil-teacher training for young men in the borough. Some went straight into elementary schools as teachers, while others like Harold went on to teacher training colleges, in his case Chester. At least 14 of the 74 men on our own memorial were teachers. Harold is also on the memorial at St. John's, Higher Broughton, along with seven other former pupils of our School. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by shred on Aug 30, 2015 19:23:29 GMT
Old Salfordian,
Absolutely superb research. Thank you again.
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 31, 2015 10:46:19 GMT
Thanks Jim, Another that needs further investigation: Name: CLARKSON, ERNEST Initials: E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Serjeant Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Secondary Regiment: Royal Fusiliers Secondary Unit Text: and 53rd Bn. Age: 19 Date of Death: 28/08/1918 Service No: TR/LON/62705 Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. George Clarkson, of 52, Johnson St., Cheetham, Manchester. Alternative Commemoration - buried in Cheetham Hill (St. Luke) Churchyard. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Screen Wall. Cemetery: MANCHESTER SOUTHERN CEMETERY No, it wasn't this guy, it was another Ernest Clarkson, this one: Name: CLARKSON, ERNEST Rank: Engine Room Artificer 4th Class Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. “Good Hope” Date of Death: 01/11/1914 Service No: 272189 Grave/Memorial Reference: 3. Memorial: Portsmouth Naval Memorial He entered our School when it opened in 1904 and left in 1906, and he was already in the Royal Navy when the 1911 census was taken. In fact, I think he was the first boy to take advantage of a scheme launched the year he left. "The Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty have requested the [Salford] Education Committee yearly to nominate a boy for entry into the Royal Navy as a Boy Artificer. Candidates must be sons of British subjects, between 15 & 16 years of age on Jan 1st and must have attended a Secondary school for at least a year. They must pass a medical examination." The Committee seem to have passed the scheme to our School, hardly surprising at all given that its name at the time was Salford Secondary School for Boys, as the scheme was referred to in its prospectus. Ernest was just the right age, 15 and a half, when the scheme was launched, and it would explain how he came to join the Navy in peace time - by no means the normal career path for boys from our School. The great majority of the men on our war memorial have been identified and he was the first of them to lose his life. Most unusually for WW1, it was in the Pacific, in the Battle of Coronel, off the coast of Chile. The School recorded his death on board HMS "Good Hope", so there's no doubt it was this Ernest Clarkson. He grew up in Salford and Lytham St. Annes, so perhaps it was the Irish Sea rather than the Manchester Docks that inspired him to go for a maritime career. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 31, 2015 13:41:56 GMT
I believe this is W H Cormack: Name: McCORMACK, WILLIAM HENRY Initials: W H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) Unit Text: 8th Bn. Date of Death: 27/09/1915 Service No: S/6539 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 78 to 83. Memorial: LOOS MEMORIAL This is indeed the right man. The family changed their name from McCormack to Cormack early in the new century. Perhaps the change was unofficial rather than by deed poll and he felt obliged to give the Army his original name. He was always known as Mac, even when he was "Cormack", as confirmed in the lengthy report of his death in the Reporter of 6th Nov 1915. He was a teacher at Trafford Road School. His sister Isabella placed death announcements in the local press. She was married to Marcus Hindshaw, who survived the war and lived to be 96 and who has an entry on your website. Marcus taught at our School from 1918 to his final retirement in 1946. So, for a quarter of a century, each day at morning Assembly he could look up at the war memorial bearing his wife's brother's name. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 31, 2015 14:28:16 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial C Crossley 2nd Lieutenant Lancashire Fusiliers 15th Battalion died 1/7/1916 CWG Pier and Face 3C and 3D Thiepval Memorial He was born in Pendleton on27/2/1891 . In 1915 his mother Agnes was living at 57 Seedley Rd and by September 1916 had moved to 37 Barff Rd Weaste. He went to Manchester Grammar School and worked as an insurance clerk before enlisting on 8/1/1915 in a public schools battalion 16th Royal Welsh Fusiliers(19815) .He was posted to Llandudno on 11/1/1915 ,became a L/corporal on 4/3/1915 and was commissioned 7/8/1915 Cyril Crossley has been connected with the Hankinson St Mission, was secretary of the Salford &District Scout Association ,Scoutmaster of the Salford Scouts and also of St Thomas Scouts. The Rev Fosbrooke said of him " He possessed a most lovable disposition , and was a general favourite with his boys. They were looking forward to his return with great expectations, but God has ruled it otherwise.( from Gods Own 1st Salford Pals) Wendy In all honesty, Manchester Grammar School has a greater claim on him than we do. Our pupil records, 59 years' worth, were destroyed in a fire in 1963, which has made researching the 74 men on our war memorial particularly challenging, but the MGS records show that he did one year at our School, the School's very first year, 1904/5, before transferring to them. Old Salfordian
|
|
|
Post by oldsalfordian on Aug 31, 2015 14:50:49 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial L C Fancourt Lawrence Charles resident Eccles Private Manchester Regiment 1/6th Battalion 2898 died 29/10/1918 at home CWG not found Born 1897 Romford Essex Wendy In 2011, when Wendy posted this, the CWGC were carrying his date of death as 29 Oct 1918. On my prompting they subsequently corrected it to 1915, which is how it appears on later posts on this website. Old Salfordian
|
|