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Post by oldsalfordian on Feb 14, 2014 18:49:31 GMT
Old Salfordian, I agree with you; 12536 Private George Ashton, Lancashire Fusiliers, died 02/07/16 is probably not the same man as George Ashton (15721 - Manchester Regiment) of 192 Clowes St. I will try and find if any articles appeared in the Salford Reporter for 12536 Ashton and 1432 Ashton when I visit the History Library on Wednesday evening. Old Salfordian, It seems that I may be wrong in my presumption that George Ashton (12536, LF) and George Ashton (15721, Manchesters) were not the same man. It would seem that Wendy and Lester may have found the following tribute from the family: ASHTON – In affectionate and ever-loving memory of Pte. GEORGE ASHTON. 16th Batt. Lancashire Fusiliers, Killed in action July 1, 1916. Fondly remembered by his MOTHER, SISTER, and BROTHERS 192, Great Clowes Street, Broughton. linkLooks like George wanted to do his bit and didn't let his earlier rejection stop him serving. I will still take a look at the Reporter on Wednesday. Well, well, well! The crafty devil got back in again! Of course, it's not funny at all. Assuming he wasn't conscripted, it is particularly sad that George's reward for his double determination to serve his country was to be at the Somme on 1st July 1916. I'm very grateful to SWARM for clearing this matter up. I now feel sure he is the guy on the Old Salfordians' memorial. As I suggested in my message challenging this attribution, he looked a very suitable candidate for one of our lads. For one thing, his sister Violetta was a teacher (1901 census), and I've been surprised by how many of our lads had a brother or sister who was a teacher. Perhaps I shouldn't have been surprised because at least 14 of the 74 men on our plaque were teachers themselves, mostly in Salford. Teacher training was one of the services the school was set up to provide for the borough. Thanks again. Old Salfordian |
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Post by shred on Feb 14, 2014 23:03:31 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial B Hopewell Bertram born Salford resident Pendleton Private Cameronians 1st Battalion 25576 formerly 5046 Royal Fusiliers died 28/10/1916 CWG Age 23 son of Christopher M and Eleanor Hopewell of 10 Grange Rd St Annes on Sea. Native of Pendleton. His brother Charles also fell U.17 Carnoy Military Cemetery Wendy  |
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Post by oldsalfordian on Feb 14, 2014 23:36:45 GMT
There it is in black & white - Salford Secondary School. George was an Old Salfordian. He is listed as a member of Platoon no. VI of 'B'Company, 2nd Salford Pals, in the 1915 Roll at the back of Stedman's book "Salford Pals" As this was before conscription, it confirms that by hook or by crook he got back into army, into the Lancs Fusiliers, after his rejection by the Manchesters. Well done George!
Old Salfordian
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Post by shred on Feb 23, 2014 15:39:26 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial J Schofield too many with Salford connections Wendy JACK SCHOFIELD Rank: Corporal Service No: 246 Date of Death: 24/11/1916 Age: 22 Regiment/Service: Australian Infantry, A.I.F. 58th Bn. Grave Reference VI. C. 15. Cemetery HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE Additional Information: Son of Robert and Elizabeth Schofield, of 45, Levens Grove, Central Rd., Blackpool, Lancs, England.  |
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Post by shred on Mar 2, 2014 17:57:02 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial S Anderson Samuel Sergeant Manchester Regiment 20541 died 15/2/1916 CWG Age 19 son of Mr and Mrs James Anderson of 259 Monton Rd Eccles VB7 Citadel New Military Cemetery Fricourt Wendy  |
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Post by shred on Apr 6, 2014 12:57:56 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial C Hollinshead Charles Private Royal Marines RM Medical Unit died 26/1/1918 CWG Age 26 son of Mr and Mrs J Hollinshead of Swinton 111.G.17 Abbeville Communal Cemetery Extension Wendy  |
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Post by shred on May 31, 2014 18:18:36 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial C Thompson Cyril 2nd Lieutenant Lancashire Fusiliers died 1/6/1918 CWG Age 28 son of Thomas and Sarah Thompson of Branwood House Clarendon Crescent Eccles 1.F.7 Martinsart British Cemetery Wendy  |
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Post by shred on Jun 21, 2014 9:36:45 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial H Brookes Herbert Corporal LNLR 9th Battalion 30048 died 14/4/1918 CWG Age 23 son of Elizabeth Brookes and the late Walter Brookes. Native of Swinton B9 Tourcoing (Pont Neuville) Communal Cemetery Wendy  |
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Post by shred on Jul 20, 2014 13:40:29 GMT
Name: Harold John Warburton Rank: Sig Birth Date: 19 Jul 1897 Branch of Service: Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Cause of Death: Killed or died as a direct result of enemy action Official Number Port Division: Mersey Z/1451. (Dev) Death Date: 25 Jan 1917 Ship or Unit: HMS Laurentic Location of Grave: Not recorded Name and Address of Cemetery: Body Not Recovered For Burial Relatives Notified and Address: Father: John, 56 Manchester Road, Inlams O' th' Height, Manchester  |
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Post by shred on Dec 6, 2014 12:44:24 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial G Wolfenden George born Swinton resident Worsley L/Corporal Manchester Regiment 2/6th Battalion 250769 died 26/11/1917 CWG Age 20 George Hubert son of Joseph and Alice Wolfenden of "Ashby" 56 Hazelhurst Rs Worsley 111.C.8 Hazebrouck Communal Cemetery Resident Moorside Rd 1901 Father Joseph a Schoolmaster Wendy  |
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Post by oldsalfordian on Feb 3, 2015 16:07:13 GMT
Ralph Brotherton LettAttachment DeletedMany, probably most families whose son or husband was reported missing in action clung on desperately to the hope that he had not been killed but had been taken prisoner or was wandering round, unidentified in a state of amnesia. This natural response was memorably captured in Rudyard Kipling's 1915 poem that starts "Have you news of my boy Jack," which is all the more poignant today because we know Lt. John Kipling had in fact been killed in action. Mr. & Mrs. Lett were still looking for their son Ralph six months after he had been reported missing and a month after the Armistice. This appeared in the Hull Daily Mail of 13th December 1918. Ralph had in fact been killed the day he was reported missing. Old Salfordian
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Post by oldsalfordian on Feb 3, 2015 16:07:27 GMT
Ralph Brotherton LettAttachment DeletedMany, probably most families whose son or husband was reported missing in action clung on desperately to the hope that he had not been killed but had been taken prisoner or was wandering round, unidentified in a state of amnesia. This natural response was memorably captured in Rudyard Kipling's 1915 poem that starts "Have you news of my boy Jack," which is all the more poignant today because we know Lt. John Kipling had in fact been killed in action. Mr. & Mrs. Lett were still looking for their son Ralph six months after he had been reported missing and a month after the Armistice. This appeared in the Hull Daily Mail of 13th December 1918. Ralph had in fact been killed the day he was reported missing. Old Salfordian
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Post by oldsalfordian on Feb 3, 2015 17:37:43 GMT
Ralph Brotherton LettMany, probably most families whose son or husband was reported missing in action clung on desperately to the hope that he had not been killed but had been taken prisoner or was wandering round, unidentified in a state of amnesia. This natural response was memorably captured in Rudyard Kipling's 1915 poem that starts "Have you news of my boy Jack," which is all the more poignant today because we know Lt. John Kipling had in fact been killed in action. Mr. & Mrs. Lett were still looking for their son Ralph six months after he had been reported missing and a month after the Armistice. This appeared in the Hull Daily Mail of 13th December 1918. Ralph had in fact been killed the day he was reported missing. Old Salfordian My Mozilla Firefox crashed when I tried to send this message, which seems to have been sent twice. The image failed to arrive with the message - I'll try again now. I can see it in the preview - let's hope it appears when I commit it.  Old Salfordian |
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Post by shred on Feb 3, 2015 21:41:58 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial T C Broadhurst Thomas Clifford 2nd Lieutenant Royal Flying Corp died 28/9/1917 CWG 635 Pendlebury St Augustine of Canterbury Churchyard born 1899 Pendlebury Wendy The following image was sent by forum member oldsalfordian.  |
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Post by shred on May 17, 2015 9:28:15 GMT
Old Salfordians Memorial C Crossley 2nd Lieutenant Lancashire Fusiliers 15th Battalion died 1/7/1916 CWG Pier and Face 3C and 3D Thiepval Memorial He was born in Pendleton on27/2/1891 . In 1915 his mother Agnes was living at 57 Seedley Rd and by September 1916 had moved to 37 Barff Rd Weaste. He went to Manchester Grammar School and worked as an insurance clerk before enlisting on 8/1/1915 in a public schools battalion 16th Royal Welsh Fusiliers(19815) .He was posted to Llandudno on 11/1/1915 ,became a L/corporal on 4/3/1915 and was commissioned 7/8/1915 Cyril Crossley has been connected with the Hankinson St Mission, was secretary of the Salford &District Scout Association ,Scoutmaster of the Salford Scouts and also of St Thomas Scouts. The Rev Fosbrooke said of him " He possessed a most lovable disposition , and was a general favourite with his boys. They were looking forward to his return with great expectations, but God has ruled it otherwise.( from Gods Own 1st Salford Pals) Wendy   Next snippet is courtesy of Ben  |
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