British War Medal, 1914-1920, attributed, Manchest

[fish4]

Hi all,
This medal is on ebay, a buy now for £49. It is not Salford, but I thought it may be of interest to somebody/collector. I will not be bidding for it.

I have sent Debs the link, but here is a taster;

British War Medal, 1914-1920, attributed, Manchester Regiment (later Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers), medal forfeited in 1921, restored in 1935

Private Robert Magill served with the Manchester Regiment and later with the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (90097 and 43897). He was also entitled to the 1914-1915 Star (France, qualifying date 16 March 1915) and the Inter-Allied Victory Medal. He was subject to disciplinary proceedings on 5 April 1921 (Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 90097) under King’s Rules and Regulations, paragraph 392 xi (misconduct) and his Star and medals were forfeited, being returned to Preston on 1 July 1921.

Cannot say what I think about the for "forfeit" of this medal, cos am not allowed to swear!!.. but am

Liz

[bomber]

Liz

The Manchester Regiment, will probably put a bid in for that
Thanks though. You do have to be careful, as there are loads on Ebay, that aren't the originals, Mack would know more

[fish4]

Hi Debs,
Yeah, ebay has lots of iffy medals, they are not my "thing", mostly because they are usually expensive!!. This seller says his medals are genuine, and probably are, but you know how trusting we Salfuds are!!. I learnt something though, didnt know these WW1 medals could be forfeited, thats terrible, certainly since they were hard to earn, am wondering if the same applied to Haig?, or any of the high rankers who were not shot at dawn for desertion but hospitalised for stress?.
Actually, theres a question; What was the highest rank shot for desertion?...anyone know?.

[Hawker Hurricane]

A second lieutenant and a sub-lieutenant were the highest ranking soldiers listed in the recent list of 306 shot at dawn soldiers who were granted posthumous pardons, as announced in August 2006.

[tonyrod]

hi everyone, if you dont know i have posted ebay ww1 medals on the Manchester regiment forum for the last 3 years, i also have a list for medals wanted, i have come across a good few of the names listed on salford memorials , so if your looking for any ,pop over and look in
,i am not a dealer or collector just looking for my own grandfathers, and hoping to get some back to the families,
tonyrod

[shred]

Hi Tony,

A few Salford related medals are on ebay at the moment Reuben Greenberg and Mathew Walsh

[Spitfire]

I live in hope of finding a couple of our families medals...

[tonyrod]

cheers shred, i listed, Matthew Walsh in Oct 09 the seller had him cpl
just checked he was a private,

Medal card of Walsh, Matthew
Corps Regiment No Rank
Manchester Regiment 276539 Private
Date 1914-1920
Catalogue reference WO 372/20

part of list , i have corrected the rank on man forum.
2008-09

SJT 47692 H WAILEY Nov 09
CPL 276539 M. WALSH OCT 09 xxxxxxxxxx
CPL 3687 WILLIAM WALKER DEC 09
PTE 302057 A. WAGSTAFF OCT 09

i only list manchester regiment , i started listing other lancashire regiments but far two many were turning up.

[chris8755]

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO LOG ON FOR A WEEK NOW FINALLY GOT CODE.

I HAVE LISTED ON EBAY A CASUALTY POW PAIR OF MEDALS TO A 12522 PTE S A THOMPSON MANCHESTER REGIMENT FROM LOWER BROUGHTON MANCHESTER.ITEM NUMBER IS 290707772479
AND THEY FINISH AT 20.14 TOMORROW (15TH MAY).
I FOUND DETAILS ABOUT HIM ON YOUR FANTASTIC SITE

SORRY I COULD NOT GET ON SOONER AS I AM SURE THESE WILL BE OF INTEREST TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS

[tonyrod]

hi chris, i have been listing Manchester regiment medals up to date 1953 MEDALS AND PLAQUES FROM STARTING IN DEC,13TH 2008
the medal you are talking about i listed on the 7th may ,on the Manchester regiment forum,
are you the seller or passing on the info, ?

[chris8755]

Thanks for the reply.I am very sorry if my post upset anybody I just wanted the medals to find there way home.I have been lucky enough in the past to reunite some groups with there famlies.
I was selling it.
It has now sold to someone in Birmingham.
If you have any details I will forward it to them as I am sure they will appreciate it.
I have tried looking for the forum you mention but had no success.

I am looking for information on a MSM I have to CSM John Owen 200506 Manchester regt. Sadly PRO has very little, some papers on Ancestry about his pension.I know his L\G page shows his town as Whelley which I assume is Wigan

Thanks Chris

[shred]

Chris,

The forum Tony refers too is the excellent Manchester Regiment Forum: themanchesters.org/forum/index.php

[tonyrod]

CHRIS, you have not upset anyone, your post was not very clear to me that's all, try this link go to all deals are between individual members! this is only the medals i have listed but have a look round and enjoy, tonyrod

themanchesters.org/forum/index.php

[chris8755]

Thanks for the link.Site looks very interesting though will not let me register.Will try again tomorrow

This may be of interest to some 14\15 trio to 7197 pte Harold Barrett 1st city Bn Manchester regt KIA 18th Jan 1916 only 24 years old from 14 the Polygon, Salford Lancs.

Also bwm 47530 pte Arthur Marshall KIA 22\10\17 awarded MM

Victory medal 44841 l\cpl bertie Batchelor 2/5th Manchester regt KIA 21\03\18 awarded MM

Currently listed in Fred Wallands catalogue plus numerous non casualty singles.

[shred]

May 16, 2012 22:45:00 GMT chris8755 said:

Thanks for the link.Site looks very interesting though will not let me register.Will try again tomorrow

This may be of interest to some 14\15 trio to 7197 pte Harold Barrett 1st city Bn Manchester regt KIA 18th Jan 1916 only 24 years old from 14 the Polygon, Salford Lancs.

Also bwm 47530 pte Arthur Marshall KIA 22\10\17 awarded MM

Victory medal 44841 l\cpl bertie Batchelor 2/5th Manchester regt KIA 21\03\18 awarded MM

Currently listed in Fred Wallands catalogue plus numerous non casualty singles.

I think? Chris is saying that all the medals mentioned above are currently for sale at the following site www.antiqueswebsite.co.uk/fred-s-walland