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Post by spud4210 on Apr 27, 2017 10:36:16 GMT
Hi all, My name is Paul and I'm researching the men who served with The King's Liverpool 2/7 Battalion. A number of those signed up late 1915 then being posted in 1916 were from the Salford and surrounding areas. My Grandfather served with them although he was a Bootle lad, he probably never heard of Salford before, that's where my intrest comes from. Over 2000 men served in the time they saw service in France from February 1917 till the time they disbanded in 1919. My research is long distance I live in Australia so I may ask some silly questions along the way  Thanks for the add Regards Paul |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 7:27:03 GMT
Hᴉ ɐup ɐ ʍɐɹɯ ʍǝlɔoɯǝ ʇo ʎon ᴉu ʇɥǝ lɐup poʍu-nupǝɹ Ԁɐnl˙ Oh! sorry about that, i'll start again but the right way round this time  Hi and a warm welcome to you in the land down-under Paul. This is a great little forum & the members & staff are very helpful & knowledgeable. I'm sure they will try and help you with your research in & around the Salford area. Ben |
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Post by shred on Apr 29, 2017 9:27:20 GMT
Hi Paul,
A Swarm welcome. If you let us know your Grandfather's name and any other family details we can see if we can find anything with regards to his service during the Great War.
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Post by spud4210 on May 3, 2017 10:44:12 GMT
Hᴉ ɐup ɐ ʍɐɹɯ ʍǝlɔoɯǝ ʇo ʎon ᴉu ʇɥǝ lɐup poʍu-nupǝɹ Ԁɐnl˙ Oh! sorry about that, i'll start again but the right way round this time Hi and a warm welcome to you in the land down-under Paul. This is a great little forum & the members & staff are very helpful & knowledgeable. I'm sure they will try and help you with your research in & around the Salford area. Ben Thanks Ben..... Will post a question soon Cheers |
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Post by spud4210 on May 3, 2017 11:00:27 GMT
Hi Paul, A Swarm welcome. If you let us know your Grandfather's name and any other family details we can see if we can find anything with regards to his service during the Great War. Many thanks Shred, My Grandfather came from Bootle the home town of the 2/7th KLR. Although no records survive of his war time... BWM record Medal Index card, I have been lucky enough to know that he did serve with them through the war diary and his daughters birth certificate that gives his service number. This is what I have on him so far NO SERVICE PAPERS BORN 1895 ADDRESS 19 OTHELLO ST BOOTLE TRADE SEAMAN (TRIMMER) MARRIED 1913 ST JOHNS WATERLOO NOK WIFE ADA MURPHY (GRANT) DAUGHTER MARY b. 1912 DAUGHTER FLORENCE b. 1914 DAUGHTER LOUISE b.1917 ENLISTED AROUND 12/05/1915 POSTED 12/05/1915 DEMOB 15/01/1919? HOME 12/05/1915 - 15/02/1917 FRANCE 16/02/1917 - 18/01/1918 HOME 19/01/1918 - 15/01/1919 13/05/1917 GRANTED CLASS 1 PROF. PAY @ 6d PER DIEM 15/06/1917 POSSIBLY GASSED/WOUNDED ?? " " " 51 C.C.S?? 29/09/1917 PROMOTED UNPAID LANCE CORPORAL INVALIDED TO ENG 18/01/1918 NO FURTHER INFORMATION LISTED WOUNDED SATURDAY JULY 14 1917 LIVERPOOL DAILY POST He was awarded the Mercantile Marine Medal (from the National Archives) and states the British was medal awarded "Army". Unfortunately there is no family memories of his service medals After he was invalided back to the UK in Jan 1918 his trail goes cold till Jan 1919 when he resurfaces in the Merchant navy, his discharge book with a photo and ships he sailed on (Nat Archives again) In that period he "disappears" I'm trying to find out if he was transferred to another Regiment, was on Home duties??? It will take a while but i will get there Cheers Paul |
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Post by shred on May 3, 2017 19:52:59 GMT
Paul,
Seeing how there are no service records you have done an excellent job.
I am presuming that he is William B Murphy, 10930 - KLR and then 597744 - Labour Corps?
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Post by spud4210 on May 3, 2017 23:52:18 GMT
Morning Shred,
Unfortunately that is not my WB Murphy. This one served in the 1st or 2nd Battalion. A few people on Ancestry have his index card on our WB's history but it isn't him.
One of my next jobs is to plot on a map where alot of the 2/7th lived. In my research there were alot whose service records survived that came from the Manchester area
Paul
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Post by prospectroad on May 6, 2017 8:31:41 GMT
Paul, 51 C.C.S?? = no. 51 Casualty Clearing Station
Welcome to the forum.
Cheers
Pete
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Post by shred on May 6, 2017 17:25:49 GMT
Then he must be 266508 William Bristow Murphy, KLR? Liverpool Daily Post, 14th July 1917  There is a picture attached to a family tree on Ancestry showing William wearing hospital blues. After studying the image it looks as if the left sleeve of William's jacket is empty suggesting his wounds may have been to his arm. I am unable to find any service record or medal index card. |
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Post by spud4210 on May 7, 2017 10:19:16 GMT
Liverpool Daily Post, 14th July 1917 There is a picture attached to a family tree on Ancestry showing William wearing hospital blues. After studying the image it looks as if the left sleeve of William's jacket is empty suggesting his wounds may have been to his arm. I am unable to find any service record or medal index card. Gidday Shred,
Yes that's my William, according to the war diary the Battalion were in the trenches for the period 3-4 weeks before this was printed. They were in the Houplines area near Armentiers. You probably were looking at my family tree or my cousins re. William in his hospital blues.
He was a reasonably lucky man considering he survived the sinking of The Empress of Ireland in May 1914....sailed on the Aquitainia at the beginning of the war... survived the war then in 1927 he was blown off a coal elevator in Gladstone Dock (Liverpool) near drowned!! during a cyclone!! He unfortunately died of Staphycoccal Septecaemia abcess of leg in 1939.
It's been frustrating not to be able to find a medal card or medal roll index for him. It would be great to finalize the picture we had made of him.
Anyway just looking into his war service has made me look for all the others who served along side him even those from Salford and surrounds. It's amazing how only 30 odd% of records survive but for the lads from Manchester who served in 2/7th KLR the survival rate of the records was at least 80 - 90 %... go figureI'll try and collate the men who served from around that area soon and send a copy if you are interested Paul |
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Post by spud4210 on May 7, 2017 10:22:52 GMT
Paul, 51 C.C.S?? = no. 51 Casualty Clearing Station Welcome to the forum. Cheers Pete Gidday Pete, 51 C.C.S was only a guess as to where my William would have been sent when he was wounded in or around early June 1917. I have no idea as there are no surviving records for him be it service papers, medal index or rolls. The only index we have is from his mercantile marine index card which states that the British medal war awarded "Army" Regards Paul |
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