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Post by shred on Apr 9, 2016 13:44:30 GMT
Tim,
I also took Groom to be his occupation prior to enlistment, if you look at the other mens' occupations on the same page "Spinner", "Barman", "Engine Cleaner" and "Clerk", I would assume that these are all descriptions of occupation in civil life.
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 10, 2016 13:02:11 GMT
Garry,
I re-checked Drysaltery Works Roll
Maroney G. Manchester Grocery 2nd Lancashire Fusiliers
Private Killed in action
All the wrong names and spellings for Charles Moroney, but definitely the man on the Manchester Office roll which is also spelt wrong. The earliest casualty I've found for Balloon Street and sole Old Contemptible. Not forgotten.
Thanks
Tim
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 10, 2016 18:52:33 GMT
Another candidate for the C.W.S. Manchester Roll and born in Salford:-
H Potts Birr Cross Roads Cemetery Private 65228, 41st Bn., Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) who died on 26 August 1917
Name: Herbert Potts Birth Place: Salford, Lancs Enlistment Place: Manchester
Rank: Private Type of Casualty: Killed in action Comments: Formerly 20918, Lancs Fus.
Errand boy Grocers in 1911, resident Hardman St, Manchester with father Frederick.
No Star. BWM/VM refers to MGC alone
No known reference in Manchester or Salford papers. No known Memorial. Any help is appreciated.
Tim
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Post by shred on Apr 11, 2016 18:12:49 GMT
Another candidate for the C.W.S. Manchester Roll and born in Salford:- H Potts Birr Cross Roads Cemetery Private 65228, 41st Bn., Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) who died on 26 August 1917 Name: Herbert Potts Birth Place: Salford, Lancs Enlistment Place: Manchester Rank: Private Type of Casualty: Killed in action Comments: Formerly 20918, Lancs Fus. Errand boy Grocers in 1911, resident Hardman St, Manchester with father Frederick. No Star. BWM/VM refers to MGC alone No known reference in Manchester or Salford papers. No known Memorial. Any help is appreciated. Tim I have spent a couple of hours on this but cannot get any further than you have. Very frustrating! |
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 12, 2016 18:31:33 GMT
Garry,
Thanks for trying. Does the 20918 number help trace a LF Bttn or likely enlistment date?
Cheers
Tim
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Post by shred on Apr 12, 2016 20:58:50 GMT
Tim,
Numbers are all over the place:
20922 - 12th Batt
20920 - 2nd Batt
20927 - 3rd Batt
20929 - 12th & 6th Batt
The fact that there are a lot of numbers around 20918 where no war medals were issued would indicate to me that these numbers may have been attached to a reserve battalion. Maybe the 21st and 22nd? I am at the library tomorrow so will check the Salford Pals book for any clues.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2016 12:02:05 GMT
Another candidate for the C.W.S. Manchester Roll and born in Salford:- H Potts Birr Cross Roads Cemetery Private 65228, 41st Bn., Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) who died on 26 August 1917 Name: Herbert Potts Birth Place: Salford, Lancs Enlistment Place: Manchester Rank: Private Type of Casualty: Killed in action Comments: Formerly 20918, Lancs Fus. Errand boy Grocers in 1911, resident Hardman St, Manchester with father Frederick. No Star. BWM/VM refers to MGC alone No known reference in Manchester or Salford papers. No known Memorial. Any help is appreciated. Tim Hi Tim, i searched hi & low but couldn't find any memorial to this chap? Strange that his family haven't had his name inscribed on the family grave? Also his birth name seemed to have been Arthur (Herbert) Potts. 1911 @ 7638 Hardman St Manchester Frederick Potts 58 Grocer Thomas Colling 37 Alice Colling 32 Ethel Colling 1 Ada Potts 22 Herbert Potts 18 1901 @ 8&10 Cobden street, next to Hardman street. Frederick Potts 48 Grocer Annie Potts 48 May R Potts 22 Joseph T Potts 15 Ada Potts 13 Arthur H Potts 9 1891 @ 2 Lillah street, Salford. Frederick Potts 38 Grocer Annie Potts 38 John Potts 14 Mary A Potts 12 George F Potts 5 Ada Potts 3 Arthur Potts 1 Baptism: 4 Mar 1886 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England George Frederick Potts - Child of Frederick Potts & Annie Born: 19 Jan 1886 Abode: 2 Lillah Street Occupation: Labourer Notes: P Recd. Dec 22nd 1889 Baptism: 4 Mar 1888 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England Ada Potts - Child of Frederick Potts & Annie Born: 4 Dec 1887 Abode: 2 Lillah Street Occupation: Porter Baptism: 22 Dec 1889 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England Arthur Potts - Child of Frederick Potts & Annie Born: 30 Oct 1889 Abode: 2 Lillah Street Occupation: Porter Baptised by: J. A. Pattinson The family are buried in Southern cemetery, Church of England section, grave number: i-1455. I have inverted the colour to make it a little better to read the names. Ben   Attachment Deleted |
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 23, 2016 17:14:58 GMT
Thanks Ben
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Post by shred on Jul 16, 2016 13:43:15 GMT
Fallen men of Salford WW1 Frank Cassidy born Salford resident Salford enlisted Manchester, Corporal Manchester Regiment 1st Battalion ,Died 24/3/16 CWG Basra Memorial Wendy Published 23rd March 2016. ![[poppy]](//storage.proboards.com/3217397/images/hFjK8RVaSDlJJcB7vPMC.gif)  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 18:58:24 GMT
Fallen men of Salford WW1 Arthur Edward Evans born Salford resident Weaste enlisted Manchester , Lancashire Fusiliers 16th Battalion, Died 2/7/16 CWG Thiepval Memorial 1911 born 1880 Salford ,122 Weaste Lane , occupation Clerk Wendy lick on the image to see a larger version.  Ben |
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 30, 2017 7:17:03 GMT
Robert Palmer born St Barts Salford enlisted Manchester ,Corporal SWB 2nd Battalion ,Died 10/7/16 Home CWG Liverpool Kirkdale Cemetery Age 27 son of John B Palmer of 107 Clarendon R Cross Lane Salford I'm seeking info on Robert Palmer who died 1/5/1917 with 17th Manchesters. Enlistment Place: Manchester Type of Casualty: Died of wounds. Sister Florence £7 War Gratuity. The 1911 Census has a Robert b1898 and Florence Palmer at 2 Alexandra St Broughton. Parents Robert and Kate Palmer. Could be the same chap? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 8:33:23 GMT
Hi Tim, i don't think they are the same man ? One died 1916 C.W.G.C. LinkThe other died 1917 C.W.G.C. LinkThe 1913 directory & the 1918 absent voters register for Chorlton-on-Medlock both show no Palmer's in April street. This is link for a will for Robert Palmer who died 1916. Link to willThere is a will for the Robert Palmer who died 1916. Link to willBen  |
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Post by 8055bell on Apr 30, 2017 10:55:53 GMT
Thanks Ben
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Post by shred on Apr 30, 2017 11:26:55 GMT
Robert Palmer died 1916   Robert Palmed died 1917  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 11:54:42 GMT
Are those taken from the M.E.N. ?
As i spotted this on FMP for Robert Palmer - 07 May 1917 - Manchester Evening News
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