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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 9:51:42 GMT
I'd go a long with that B Norbury as well Mack:) Some are not on the CWGC, so I am going to put there memorial, as the Central Mission one
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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 16:41:22 GMT
The Congregationalists appeared in Windsor in 1797, when one John Joule built a chapel there. Another was built in Salford proper in 1819, and is now the Central Mission church. These have been followed by Hope, to the south, in 1837, and Richmond to the north in 1846.
Its nearly 200 years old and they want to knock it down!!!
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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 16:57:05 GMT
Just found this Attachments:
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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 17:03:17 GMT
And another Attachments:
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Post by shred on Oct 21, 2010 20:47:43 GMT
Salford Central Mission
The Early Years In the early part of the 20th Century, the people of Salford had a magnificent, daring, imaginative dream. They wanted to build a church that would transform the community. A church that would provide facilities that would fuse together the social needs of the people with the more informal style of Christian worship that was provided by the Congregational Church. The building would be a bold, majestic, modern statement of their belief that their church should embrace the community. There are records of the Mission that go back to 1870 when there were no Manchester Docks and the Manchester Ship Canal was still a pipe dream. The area where the church now stands was just a couple of hundred yards away from the grandstand of the first Manchester Race Course. Not far away, though, houses were being hastily built to accommodate the workers destined for the rapidly expanding cotton industry. As people began to move into the area from the surrounding countryside and neighbouring towns they brought with them their Christian values and churchmanship. Many had moved away from the established Church of England and the non conformist churches were springing up everywhere. At that time, a group of people belonging to Hope Independent Chapel in Liverpool Street decided to create a Christian Fellowship in the vicinity of Trafford Road and Regent Road. At first they met in a room in Regent Street, but this soon proved to be inadequate and they moved to the new Shaftsbury Hall, on the corner of West Craven Street and Robert Hall Street, for which they paid an annual rental of £20. Significantly, one of the first decisions to be made at a meeting held on the 16th January 1871, was to set up a building fund with a first donation of 10/- from a member of the Church Committee. Their membership, however, continued to grow and, being restricted to a congregation of only eighty people in the Hall, the decision was made to move to the Liberal Club on Trafford Road. There they formally established themselves as the Regent Congregational Church and had students and laymen to take their services. Very soon, though, it became obvious that once again there was insufficient room for them at the Liberal Club and it was suggested that the Conservative Club at 57 Trafford Road had larger premises. The political connections of the club made the idea rather unpalatable for some of the members but, in the end, they decided to approach the Conservative Club. Initially, £70 per annum was asked for the use of these premises but, for some of the young men in the Church, such a fee was extortionate and they eventually persuaded the Conservative Club to reduce this to a more reasonable fee. It did, however, make them realize that, although the new premises were more commodious, they needed a place of their own. So it was that in 1892 the Regent Congregational Church leased a piece of land in Elizabeth Street just off Trafford Road and there, at a cost of £500, they built a Church which could accommodate 400 people. This became known locally as ‘The Tin Tab.’ In 1895 the Rev.Alfred Cooke was invited to become the first Minister of the Church. When he met with them they were very honest and said we have no money just debts. He was however impressed with their commitment and faith and decided to leave his Church in Plymouth and come to Salford. In 1900 the Rev.Cooke founded the Pleasant Sunday Afternoon, or PSA as it was more commonly known, with the motto ‘Brief, Bright and Brotherly.’ This was a non-denominational, non-sectarian, non-political meeting for men on a Sunday afternoon. They held their meetings at the Regent Theatre Assembly Rooms and in a very short period of time the membership rose to over 1000. It became one the largest brotherhoods in the country. A year later and the Assembly Rooms were also being used on Sunday evenings for a service for people who did not attend any church. It was a popular type of service with an orchestra and various departures from the ordinary routine of worship were adopted. The Hall was packed to capacity and this was all in addition to the work that was taking place in the ‘Tin Tab’.
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Post by shred on Oct 21, 2010 20:49:05 GMT
Building the Dream In 1904 a meeting was called to discuss the possibility of building a Congregational Church in the centre of Salford. By this time, Salford had become an important, vibrant and growing city. The new number 9 dock on the Manchester Ship Canal was thriving, the Royal Hippodrome at the top of Cross Lane had given its first performances in March, the Salford Lads Club had been opened the previous year and, two years before that, the first passengers had been carried on the new electric tram cars up Cross Lane and into Broughton. The decision was made at this meeting to amalgamate the New Windsor Congregational Church with the Regent Congregational Church under the title Salford Central Mission. A corner of vacant land between Trafford road and Broadway was acquired and the dream slowly became a reality. On the 27th.April 1907 the foundation stone of the new Church was laid but, because of the inclement weather, most of the ceremonies took place indoors at the Tin Tab. The local Salvation Army played a selection of tunes before the ceremony started and the hymns during the dedication. In his address the Rev. Alfred Cooke said ‘The new hall was a record of their faith in God, and it was to be built for the express purpose of honouring The Lord Jesus Christ. This was to be an institutional Church. There would be a lads club and gym in the basement, a men’s club and billiard room, and a girl’s club room. The Hall would be the best in England.’ In 1906 the Manchester Congregational Board had launched a major, five years Church Expansion Scheme. The anticipated cost of the total scheme was expected to be £75,000 and Mrs. Rylands, the wealthy widow of John Rylands who built the famous library in Manchester, had made a challenge gift of £25,000 towards this. The cost for building Salford Central Mission, including furnishings and full electric lighting, was £18,000 and the majority of this was provided by the Manchester Congregational Board as a part of this church building programme, with the folk in Salford having to raise £1,000. The builders of the Church were Gerrards of Swinton. Two stones were laid, one by the Minister, the Rev. Alfred Cooke and the other by Sir William Stephens who had had been the Mayor of Salford three times and was a great supporter of the Mission. Each of them was presented with Commemorative silver trowels by Gerrards. Present throughout the ceremony was the Rev. William Evans who later succeeded the Rev. Alfred Cooke as the new Minister at the Mission. George Bradley, the man who, as Church Treasurer, was charged with the formidable task of managing the finances of the Church throughout this major project, was to have a long involvement with the Mission. The service ended with the Doxology and the Benediction.
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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 21:07:33 GMT
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Post by bomber on Oct 21, 2010 21:10:03 GMT
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Post by Spitfire on Oct 21, 2010 21:20:27 GMT
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Post by mack on Oct 22, 2010 7:06:33 GMT
pte 10105 arthur davies enlisted 4-9-14 aged 19 18th manchesters warehouseman 21 ryall st,salford mother,elizabeth religion,weslyan to france 8-11-15 killed by shell fire on 4th february 1916
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Post by mack on Oct 22, 2010 8:38:33 GMT
pte 251520 robert,stanley crompton 1/6th manchesters died of wounds 4-9-18 aged 28 son of robert+elizabeth,67 seedley park rd,salford formerly of 54 vere st,weaste
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Post by mack on Oct 22, 2010 9:11:07 GMT
seaman norman,rees jones merchant navy died 17-3-17 aged 15 died when the SS tasso was torpedoed near groix island while carrying a cargo of ammo from manchester to la pallice,the capt and 18 crew perished son of evan,rees+ann,jane jones,77 goodiers lane,salford
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Post by bomber on Oct 22, 2010 9:18:01 GMT
Thanks Mack
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Post by mack on Oct 22, 2010 10:01:37 GMT
the j e roberts+r roberts on the memorial were brother. pte 10570 joseph,edward roberts,15th lancs fusiliers pte 10571 richard roberts,15th lancs fusiliers,married to may,lived at 105 robert hall st,salford
both lads enlisted togethor and went to france on 23-11-15,both died togethor on the somme,on 1st july 1916,richard was 26yrs old.
sorry,thats all i could find
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Post by Hawker Hurricane on Oct 22, 2010 10:06:00 GMT
You're doing brilliant work there Mack. Many thanks for your perseverence and dedication.
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