Wendi
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Peeking onto the past
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Post by Wendi on Nov 9, 2010 17:50:40 GMT
In 1871 my relation is a Sergeant in 8th Foot at The Infantry Barracks in Salford. By 1881 he is recorded as Licensed Victualler and Pensioner at "31 Windsor" (The Founders Arms) Salford. I am hoping for information about both places, and perhaps any photos or maps that may exist of either the Barracks or The Founders Arms. Thank you for listening! Wendi  |
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Post by bomber on Nov 9, 2010 19:45:11 GMT
Cross Lane Barracks Attachments:
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Post by shred on Nov 9, 2010 20:51:11 GMT
Wendi, A map of the Barracks. Attachments:
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Post by shred on Nov 9, 2010 20:59:11 GMT
The old barracks were further down Regent Road heading away from Manchester Attachments:
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Post by bomber on Nov 9, 2010 21:01:00 GMT
Can't find the Pub Pic, will keep looking though |
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Post by shred on Nov 9, 2010 21:01:46 GMT
This shows the old and new barracks. Attachments:
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Post by shred on Nov 9, 2010 21:08:20 GMT
From Wilf on the Salford Forum.
"The Founders Arms :- It was one of the first beer house to open at New Windsor. It was kept by Arthur Spence in the 1830s. It was on the south ide of the road, part of a row of houses between the Windsor Castle and Cross Lane. Subsequent licensees included : William Kay in the 1840s, William Marsh in the 1850s - 60s, James Chapman and amuel Greenwood in the 1870s an Samuel Bardsley in the 1880s.
The Founders was acquired by Walkers Brewery and in 1901 they applie, unsuccessfully, to extend into the house next door. They had problems in 1905 when the magistrates refused to renew the licence when the tenant, Sarah Ellsi was convicted of running a disorderly house. The brewery managed to get the decision overturned at the Quarter Sessions, but they had to defend the likcence again in 1907. The Police reported that the nearby pubs - Windsor Castle, Grapes, Corporation and Fusiliers - were all doing better and they wanted the Founders closed. Walkers were able to show that the Founders was selling 4 or 5 barrels of beer per week, trade was increasing and they expected it to do better once the Staff Of Life across the road closed. This beerhouse was referred for compensation at the same sessions"
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broomy
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Post by broomy on Nov 9, 2010 21:08:46 GMT
Found this on the Salford site.
Can't help re the soldiers, but the Founders Arms was in New Windsor area of Salford and a photo appears on page 11 in Neil Richardson's book: "Salford Pubs- Part 3"
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Post by shred on Nov 9, 2010 21:14:12 GMT
Broomy,
I have that book in front of me and it is not in there. Wonder if they named the wrong "part" number?
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Post by bomber on Nov 9, 2010 21:17:59 GMT
and I can't find it from book 2 either ??
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Post by bomber on Nov 9, 2010 21:19:14 GMT
The original poster on the Salford Forum is tis Wendi, so you could message her through the Manchester Regiment Forum |
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Wendi
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Peeking onto the past
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Post by Wendi on Nov 10, 2010 8:33:36 GMT
Bomber, Shred ! Good morning from a bright and sunny south coast (a marked difference from yesterday !!) and a Big Thank You for your interest and the photo and maps of the Barracks, it all helps to make things a little clearer  Tis was enquiring for me on the Salford Forum, over the years she has been kind enough to help me quite a bit with this family, but as you have discovered, we never did find a photo................ yet !! You have been so generous I wonder if you can add anything to these facts? By 1882 he and his family move to Urmston I know it's not Salford ;D but in 1891 he is describing himself as "Military Instructor - Employed" by 1901 in Rusholme, south Manchester he describes himself as "Private School Drill Instructor" ~ does anyone have even the vaguest idea what he is up to? my best guess is that he is working at some kind of Private School/Grammar School ~ whose records might still exist, if I could just pin it down. Thanks for indulging me  Wendi |
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