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Post by clairej75 on Feb 26, 2017 12:26:41 GMT
Hello. I am very new to this. I have researched a soldier, Harry Male, who was born in Wolverhampton in 1894. His family moved to Manchester sometime before 1901 and they lived at St Michaels Place (next to Style Street on the 1901 census), Mary Ellen Street (off Gorton Street) in 1902 and Slater Street off Oldham Road in 1911. He died at Alma Park Military Hospital, a converted primary school in 1918, at which time his address is Red Bank, Cheetham. He is commemorated on a street plaque and the Wolverhampton Roll of Honour.
I confess to not knowing Manchester at all. As such I am trying to identify if he was commemorated on a war memorial anywhere in Salford/Manchester, be that work (he did work for the Railway in 1911) or church etc. I think he left Manchester prior to 1914 and enlisted in Wolverhampton. His father died in 1912 but he had a step mother and step brother that appear to have remained in the area.
I would also be grateful if anybody could direct me to sources to allow me to understand the areas in which he lived whilst in Manchester as I am trying to build a picture of the life he led prior to the war.
Thanks so much - Best Wishes - Claire
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Post by Ben on Feb 26, 2017 13:05:30 GMT
Hi & a warm welcome to you Claire. Harry's C.W.G.C. LinkThe Michaels Place came under Red Bank & Angel Meadows area of Manchester. Both were really poor areas to be living. Put the names of the streets your family lived at in this web-link You will find many photos of the streets they lived in. Manchester has gone through great changes since your family lived there but there are still a few streets left in the Red Bank & Angel Meadows are that have survived. Here is a link to a map of the area in 1930 Ben
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Post by clairej75 on Feb 26, 2017 13:20:24 GMT
Thank you Ben. I really appreciate your help. I had, from general Google searches, thought they might be the St Michael's Flags / Angel Meadow areas but needed confirmation from someone who actually would know. The map is tremendously useful and I'm looking forward to finding images of the streets. Do you have any ideas where I could / should start to look for his name on a local memorial (other than at the CWGC cemetery)? (Ideally, I'm wanting someone to have compiled a complete on line list of all names on every memorial in Manchester...If only... ) Thanks again
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Post by shred on Feb 26, 2017 13:36:32 GMT
Hi Claire, I have checked all the indexes for the local papers without success. No luck after checking the Cheetham Hill memorials that have been indexed by the Manchester and Lancashire FHS - linkDependant on Harry's religion he may have been named on the St Chad's RC church memorial. Read about the memorial here.I have also drawn a blank after checking some Rolls of Honour for Manchester firms and institutes that I have on CD.
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Post by Ben on Feb 26, 2017 13:39:04 GMT
Hi, i did have a look on the M&LFHS website but with no luck, they are putting together a list of all memorials for the greater Manchester area. Link to M&LFHS memorial listThe Imperial war museum north are also putting a list, but again no luck there Link Now i'm not 100% sure if you know this or i have the correct man? but i think i found Harry's father burial record? Charles E Male buried 19th Sept 1912 in Philips park cemetery, Manchester. Age given: 54, Occupation: Gas worker, Abode: 54 Limer street, off Rochdale road, Ancoats, Manchester. He is buried in the Church-of-England section, grave number: D-1576. This seems to be a common/paupers grave? Ben
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Post by Ben on Feb 26, 2017 13:49:44 GMT
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Post by clairej75 on May 23, 2017 8:41:48 GMT
Hello. Thank you so much for your help and ideas. Yes Charles Edwin was Harry's father - I hadn't realised it was a pauper grave, and that is really useful to know thanks. Thanks again for the other links. It seems unlikely he is commemorated in Manchester/Salford although he is buried there, and quite possibly this could be due to a breakdown in the family after his dad died. His Wton family commemorated home on the town roll of honour and a local community memorial but he spent most of his life in Salford/Manchester and his step mother and brother appear to have stayed there. This has been really useful, so thank you once again!
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