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Post by curious on Mar 20, 2015 16:17:03 GMT
Thank you Ben will look into it a bit more now with the information I have.
When I enrolled on this site I must have put in the subject as 'New Member' instead of Harry Muskett. Can I alter it? If so could you tell me how to do it please?
Many thanks.
Patricia
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 17:21:58 GMT
Thank you Ben When I enrolled on this site I must have put in the subject as 'New Member' instead of Harry Muskett. Can I alter it? If so could you tell me how to do it please? Many thanks. Patricia Go back to your first post you made on this thread, Click on the EDIT button, on the right hand side just below the REPLY button, Once the edit option opens for you, Change the wording in the SUBJECT box and finish by scrolling down that page and clicking on the SAVE CHANGES button.
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Post by curious on Mar 22, 2015 18:41:40 GMT
Many thanks once again Ben all done and dusted.
Patricia.
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Post by curious on Mar 26, 2015 3:46:40 GMT
Hi Ben,
Just thought I'd let you know I visited Southern Cemetery today to find the grave you told me about. Sadly there was no headstone, probably too poor to pay for one!! However I went to the office and they gave me details of the people interred. It just shows why some people are difficult to trace , two of the entries of the surname were down as Maskett and Hurskitt.
Are there any records kept of the various UK war memorials erected with details of the engraved names on each
I have discovered that there is an annual service for the Lancashire Fusiliers held at Bury Parish Church commemorating Gallipoli. You have to book a place to attend and my husband and I will be going this year.. Also we are looking forward to our trip this year to the Helles Memorial in Turkey to see his name engraved there.
Thank you so much for all your help and also to the other contributors, it really means a lot.
Patricia
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 15:36:26 GMT
Hi Patricia, first of all are you 100% sure you found the exact grave? I only ask as Southern cemetery is the biggest municipal cemetery in the country and easy to get confused at where a grave should be? The reason i ask is that with your family owning a big burial plot been buried together, i think they could have afforded a headstone? I could find seven people buried in the plot, one as far as i could workout not related but in the grave. As there is no way of knowing how many people exactly in the grave as Manchester cemeteries do not have records of when a grave is full.The reason you were given some family members as Hurskitt, is the person at the office only looked at the transcribed records. The transcribes were done in Asia, where English is not the first language. They have been transcribed at least twice and still there is 100's of mistakes. Now if you go to central library, you can look at the original burial records for free and you will find that the names are in fact MUSKETT. It costs nothing to view them, but they are on old microfilm and poor quality machines & film. These are what i found for you.
Andrew Muskett buried 27th March 1880 Abode: 12 Clarendon street, Chorlton on Medlock. Died age 24. Beer house keeper
Andrew Leigh Muskett Birth Year: abt 1856 Age: 20 Marriage Date: 21 Sep 1876 Parish: Chorlton upon Medlock, All Saints Parish as it Appears: Chorlton on Medlock, All Saints Father's name: Edward Muskett Spouse's Name: Martha Ann Purselove Spouse's Father's Name: Edward Purselove Abode: 12 Clarendon street, Chorlton on Medlock.
1881 census at 12 Clarendon street, Chorlton on Medlock. Edward Muskett 60 Head Publican Elizabeth Muskett 56 wife Edward Muskett 31 Son Edward Muskett 8 Grandson Mary Muskett 5 Granddaughter.
Edward Muskett buried 22nd Dec 1884 Abode: 12 Clarendon street, Chorlton on Medlock. Died age 63. Beer house keeper.
John Edward Muskett buried 9th April 1885 Abode: 75 William street, Hulme. Died age 19 months.
Rebecca Martha Emblow buried 18th Nov 1887. Age 55, married. Abode: 55 Lloyd street, Hulme.
Marriage for Rebecca Joseph Emblow Plumber Age: 25 Marriage Date: 11 Sep 1869 Parish: Manchester, St John Father's name: William Emblow Plumber Spouse's Name: Rebecca Woolley Age: 24 Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Woolley Publican
Elizabeth Tortorshell Muskett buried 6th May 1889 Abode: 114 Leaf street, Hulme. Age: 16 months ( Father: Frederick Muskett- Machineman).
Frederick James Muskett Birth Date: 18 Aug 1861 Age: 1 Baptism Date: 11 May 1863 Parish: Chorlton upon Medlock, All Saints Parish as it Appears: Manchester, All Saints Father's name: Edward Muskett Mother's name: Elizabeth Muskett
Frederick James Muskett Birth Year: abt 1861 Age: 19 Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1880 Parish: Manchester, St Paul, New Cross Parish as it Appears: Manchester, St Paul Father's name: Edward Muskett Spouse's Name: Ann Jones Spouse's Father's Name: James Jones
Elizabeth Muskett buried 5th Oct 1889 Abode: 25 West Worsley street, Salford. Age: 65, widow.
Edward Muskett buried 14th Dec 1917. Abode: 524 Liverpool road, Patricroft. Age: 68.
Love watching the Gallipoli Day Parade in Bury. You should also call in at the Fusiliers museum, but better going another day as it can get very busy. It's a great education for anyone. Also your better of either parking away from the town centre or getting there by the tram as all the streets in town are closed off to traffic.
Just one more thing, did you check graves in-front/ behind and on both sides? The reason i ask is that some families like to be buried close together and may have bought the graves close by? Happy i could help in some small way,
Ben
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Post by prospectroad on Mar 26, 2015 21:18:20 GMT
Patricia, there is a Harry Muskett on the Irlam and Cadishead War Memorial for WW2 (not WW1). Could they have been related?
Regards Pete
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Post by curious on Mar 28, 2015 1:18:31 GMT
Hi Ben,
Thanks once again for all the information. As soon as I can I will go to Manchester Library to view the records. In the cemetery we found graves F478 and F479, there were quite a few gaps to the left of F478 and the same to the right of F479 with no more headstones until F486. When we went to the cemetery office I asked if they knew whether there had ever been a headstone ( I thought it may have been removed due to instability) I was told there had never been one. They gave me a list of seven names all of which tie up with your names and burial dates except for the two errors on the surnames. I may go again to have another look round. There were three of us looking, myself and two friends who have done quite a lot of searching for their family in the past. Thanks for the information about the Bury parade, I wasn't aware of it. I only found out about the service after speaking to Councillor Margaret Morris to whom I was referred by the British Legion when I made some enquiries in their Manchester shop on Cross Street regarding war memorials.
We live in Stockport so will be travelling by train and tram so we won't have a problem parking, thank you.
As for helping in a small way, I feel you have helped in a very big way and really appreciate the time you have given to me. Many thanks once again.
Patricia
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Post by curious on Mar 28, 2015 1:50:38 GMT
Hi Pete,
i will need to research this, I've been concentrating on the mid 1800's and early 1900's and have not progressed beyond 1918 when my maternal grandfather Harry Muskett (son of Harry Muskett who died at Gallipoli in 1915) married Anorah Moran in Stockport. I think they only had sons who died when babies, so the name Muskett in our family could have died out until one of my brothers had a son in about 1964. Although I think my grandfather had a brother John born about 1907 in Salford. I don't know whether he ever married or had children. That's another piece of research for another day.
Thank you for your interest and input.
Patricia
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2015 8:15:53 GMT
C.W.G.C. link for Harry MuskettMarraiage of his parents: Marriage: 26 Dec 1910 St Andrew, Eccles, Lancashire, England Walter Muskett - 19, Bleacher, Bachelor, 65 Davis Street Eccles Edith Rogers - 19, Spinster, 67 Davis Street Eccles Groom's Father: James Muskett, Labourer Bride's Father: Frederick Rogers, Carter Witness: Richard Hurd; Sarah Bray Married by Banns by: Charles Smith 1911 with Walter Muskett with his in-laws At 67 Davis St Eccles. Frederick Rogers 46 Lucy Rogers 46 Ernest Rogers 25 Beatrice Rogers 16 Gladys Rogers 10 Fred Rogers 8 Walter Muskett 19 Edith Muskett 19
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Post by curious on Mar 28, 2015 21:51:49 GMT
Hi Ben,
You never cease to amaze me with your information. Hope to find some time tomorrow to work on it. Many thanks once again.
Patricia
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Post by curious on May 9, 2015 23:39:57 GMT
Hi Ben,
My husband and I went to the service in Bury commemorating the centenary of the Gallipoli campaign, it was very enjoyable although extremely poignant. The parade of the various regiments was lovely to see especially the various cadets. We are now looking forward to our trip with our friends to Gallipoli to see my great grandfather's name on the Helles Memorial. We are going on two guided tours covering all the battlefields. Unfortunately I've not had time recently to tie up all the information I've been sent on my family history but I am very grateful to you and everyone else who has participated. Very best wishes to you all. Patricia.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 9:07:17 GMT
Hi Patricia, yes the parade was really good and the weather stay good to. All the mayors from around the area came. A very good turn out and is good to know that Bury (among other places) keep the memories alive. Gallipoli Day is remembered every year in Bury, home of the Lancashire fusiliers. Did you manage to take a look in the fusiliers museum? They have all 6 V.C.'s won by breakfast link I hope you enjoy your trip to Gallipoli & Helles Memorial. Do please take some photos, i'm sure the forum would love to see them on here. Ben
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Post by curious on Jun 6, 2015 19:57:44 GMT
Hi Ben,
We're off to Gallipoli next week. I am going to take my iPad and try to video the sections relating to the Lancs Fusiliers if they are accessible. Unfortunately I'm not sure how to transfer any information and photos I take onto the Forum. Do you know how and is there more than one method to achieve it? It would be good if I could help someone to discover something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 12:17:49 GMT
Hi Patricia, i should imagine it is going to be an emotional for you while in Gallipoli, but hopefully it will bring you some comfort and a sense of pride. With regard you posting any video's on here, i think you may have to upload the to some sort of hosting site, like YouTube. I would ask the forum admin/staff for further help as they may have a site they use and you could email them any video or images? Regards & enjoy your trip, Ben
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Post by shred on Jun 7, 2015 18:31:08 GMT
Hi Patricia, YouTube would be the best, and simplest, option for uploading your video. You will need to set up a You Tube account and then follow these simple instructions.For pictures you can either use an image resizer and upload directly to the forum using the "Add Attachment" button or join Photobucket and link the image from Photobucket using the button when posting a message. Please do not hesitate to ask for help if required. As Ben has already stated your trip will be quite an emotional one, but please try and enjoy the trip. Set some time aside for remembering Harry and some time to enjoy and relax. The Turkish people do some wonderful food and beverages. Best wishes, Garry
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