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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 10:52:12 GMT
HI, i know this is side tracking off the original thread but you might be interested in this? This all relates to Annie Murgatroyd Nee Shambrook brother & his wife wife. 1901 at 4 Percy street, Salford. Joseph Shambrook 43 Annie Shambrook 16 John S Shambrook 11 William Boon 57 ( Uncle) 1911 at 30 Claremont street, Salford. Joseph Shambrook 51 Estalla Shambrook 49 John Stanley Shambrook 21 Carter.Marriage: 3 Apr 1915 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England John Stanley Shambrook - 25 Carter Bachelor of 4 Trenam St. Elizabeth Ann Sykes - (X), 23 Doubler Spinster of 4 Trenam St. Groom's Father: John Shambrook, Labourer Bride's Father: Richard Sykes, Labourer Witness: Frederick Haigh; Mary Alice Haigh Married by Banns by: Myles Atkinson I think the transcribe for John Stanley Shambrook's father might be wrong but it is the same family. John Stanley & Elizabeth Ann Shambrook nee Sykes seemd to die young. John S Shambrook Birth Date: abt 1890 Date of Registration: June 1/4 1924 Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Salford Elizabeth A Shambrook Birth Date: abt 1891 Date of Registration: Sept 1/4 1920 Age at Death: 29 Registration district: Bucklow Inferred County: Cheshire This is why i think Elizabeths death was registered in Bucklow, as it cover Altrincham, Cheshire. 22 Sept 1920 Ben
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Post by ianjones65 on Dec 19, 2012 13:34:15 GMT
i can not find richard any where in 1901. any ideas?
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Post by ianjones65 on Dec 19, 2012 13:53:25 GMT
wow ben, your really good at this, thats really interesting the Witness to the shambrook maraiage brither of annie, haigh, has people also living in branson street salford in 1911 this could be a link to how esther ended up being given to the evans also in branson street 1917. its all very confusing
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 14:23:57 GMT
Your Richard i think has been wrote down in the 1901 Census as Robert.
1901 at 162, Ordsall Lane, Salford. MURGATROYD, John W Head 49 Labourer For Joiner born Wakefield, Yorkshire MURGATROYD, Margaret Wife 53 Born Woolwich, Essex MURGATROYD, George Son 19 Mechanic Iron Turner MURGATROYD, Robert Son 17 Labourer In Dye Works MURGATROYD, John Son 3
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Post by ianjones65 on Dec 19, 2012 14:47:33 GMT
Thanks so very much this is all brilliant now i need to go backwards on john w. ian
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 16:58:07 GMT
Thanks so very much this is all brilliant now i need to go backwards on john w. ian Do you know what happened to John W Murgatroyd ? If not let me know and as i think i do Ben
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Post by ianjones65 on Dec 19, 2012 17:03:51 GMT
hey as yet i dont know much about him, what info do you have, i think i found out that richard died in blackburn in 1967 blackburn but not totally sure
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 17:20:35 GMT
I seen the Richard death, but i have no proof he is yours. Now John William Murgatroyd, i think i can prove ;D John William Murgartroyd died died age 71 at 55 Denby Dale road, Wakefield, West Yorkshire. March 1928. He is buried here in Manchester in Southern cemetery. He is buried in a single grave in the Nonconformist section, grave number: A- 7908. Denby Dale road still stands and you can find it on Google earth, but sadly i am not sure number 55 does? His age is out by a couple of years but that could be down to who ever registered the death. Click here for Southern cemetery on Google earthBen
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Post by ianjones65 on Dec 19, 2012 17:32:56 GMT
wow ben, you must have some resources to hand, This is a fantastic help to my family tree, i live in iom, but at home in worsley for christmas, my mum is well chuffded with all we are finding out
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 17:33:35 GMT
Possible for Margaret ? Margaret Murgatroyd Birth Date: abt 1852 Date of Registration: Sept 1/4 1928 Age at Death: 76 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: Page: 283
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 18:04:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 18:12:26 GMT
Mary A Margatroyd Married aHerbert W Robinson 1899 Margaret Margatroyd married a George Hanson 1896
Both at St Clements Salford
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 19:26:11 GMT
1881 at 32 Woden Street, Salford. John Wm. Murgatroyd 30 Margaret Murgatroyd 30 Joseph Summerfield 13 James Murgatroyd 9 Mary Ann Murgatroyd 7 Margaret Murgatroyd 4 John Wm. Murgatroyd 1
Now i think i found more on James & John William Jnr. Ben
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 19:55:42 GMT
James went on to marry Ellen Prudence Brierley. 1891 at 18 Crown street, Hulme Manchester. James Murgatroyd 19 Born Salford. Ellen P Murgatroyd 20 Mary E Brierley 41 Click here for James & Ellen's marriage certificate1901 at 8 Rensington street, Hulme , Manchester. James Murgatroyd 28 Ellen P Murgatroyd 30 Ruth Murgatroyd 7 ( Daughter) Esther Murgatroyd 4 ( Daughter) All the family including there first born child (2 months old )James Alfred Murgatroyd are buried in Southern cemetery Manchester. In the nonconformist section, grave number: H-16221911 at 24 Marple street, Hulme, Manchester. James Murgatroyd 38 Dock labourer born Salford Ellen Prudence Murgatroyd 40 Ruth Murgatroyd 17 Esther Murgatroyd 14 Ben
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 20:41:11 GMT
John William married Mary Ann Hughes Click here for Joh & Mary's wedding certificate1901 at South Hall street, Salford John W Murgatroyd 21 Iron works Mary A Murgatroyd 23 1911 at 69 Ariel Street Weaste Salford John William Murgatroyd 31 Capstan lathe turner Mary Ann Murgatroyd 32 Albert Murgatroyd 7 William Murgatroyd 6 months John William Murgatroyd died Oct 193 at the time he was residing at 49 Grimshaw lane, Newton Heath. His occupation at the time was still a " Turner" and suspect he might have been working Mather & Platts as they had works in both Manchester & Salford. John died age 58 and was buried on the 22nd Oct 1938 He is buried in Philips park cemetery along with his wife Mary Ann. He is buried is buried in the church of England section, grave number: G-306 Mary Ann was still residing at Grimshaw Lane when she died. She was buried 25th July 1960. Will look for other bits another time, my eyes are burnt out look at a screen now Ben
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