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Post by tobytyler191148 on Oct 16, 2011 15:50:49 GMT
Hi! Deb do you have any information on 306647 Richard Tyler 15th Lancashire Fusiliers.
Regards. Phil tyler
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Post by shred on Oct 16, 2011 16:39:38 GMT
Hi Toby, I am not Debs, hope I will do for now. I presume that this is your Richard shown as living at 121 Marriotts Court, Salford in 1901 census? I cannot see a pension or service record for him. I can only find his medal index card which gives very little information - his name, number, rank and the fact that he was awarded the British and Victory war medals. Attachments:
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Post by mack on Oct 16, 2011 16:57:36 GMT
his service number is one that was issued to a territorial,either the 7th or 8th lancs fusiliers
mack
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Post by tobytyler191148 on Oct 16, 2011 17:09:15 GMT
Could that have been the 3/8 batallion? and thanks for the info..
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Post by shred on Oct 16, 2011 20:30:10 GMT
Phil,
I have done a quick check of close numbers on the Salford absent voters list. Here are the results:
306631 L.-Cpl., 1/8th L.Fus
306632 Pte.. 1/8th Lancs. Fus.
306628 Pte., 1/8th L. F .
306683 Pte., 2/8 Lancs. Fus.
306626 Pte., 1/8th L.F.
306620 Pte., 1/8th'L.F.
and a man who died who has the next number after Richard's:
Name: Henry Bowling
Birth Place: Salford, Lancs
Death Date: 20 Apr 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Salford
Rank: Private
Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers
Battalion: 2/8th Battalion
Number: 306648
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
The above seems to indicate some consistency in how the numbers were allotted but please be aware that service numbers can be a minefield and I am no expert.
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Post by tobytyler191148 on Oct 17, 2011 6:52:07 GMT
Thanks Shred...  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 8:57:38 GMT
It might be worth you asking Mack to check the Collyhurst/Milesplatting absent voters list as the family were living at 47 Baguley street after 1901.
Ops should have mentioned the address is in Manchester ;D
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Post by tonyrod on Oct 18, 2011 12:10:09 GMT
Men serving in the Territorial Force got new six digit numbers in 1917,
only the six digit number appears on his medal index card,
so he did not go overseas until after the new numbers were issued to the regiments.
2/7th Battalion
Formed at Salford in August 1914 as a home service ("second line") unit
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8 February 1915 : attached to 197th Brigade, 66th (2nd East Lancashire) Division.
Moved to Crowborough in May 1915 and went on to Tunbridge Wells in October 1915 and Colchester in March 1916.
Landed at Le Havre 28 February 1917.
April 1918 : reduced to cadre strength after taking heavy casualties.
30 June 1918 : returned to England, transferred to 74th Brigade, 25th Division and moved to Aldershot.
9 July 1918 : disbanded and reformed as 24th Bn (see below).
2/8th Battalion
Formed at Salford on 29 September 1914 as a home service ("second line") unit.
record same as 1/7th Bn.
22 April 1918 : reduced to cadre and finally disbanded 31 July 1918
66th (2nd East Lancashire) France & Flanders March 1917
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Post by shred on Oct 18, 2011 20:43:54 GMT
It might be worth you asking Mack to check the Collyhurst/Milesplatting absent voters list as the family were living at 47 Baguley street after 1901. Ops should have mentioned the address is in Manchester ;D Ben, I am sure that I have read that you have a copy of all the Manchester AVLs (please excuse me if I am wrong). Would you be kind enough to do the look up for Phil? After all we are all here to help one another. Cheers, Garry |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 10:47:11 GMT
Hi Gary, i said i had many not all of the AVL. The ones i hold have now been donated to the Manchester & Salford family history forumI originally scanned and put the Salford AVL on cd for mack some years back. My intention was always to make them available to every one and for free, but i found that others were not willing to do this. Congratulations on your collaboration with the M&LFHS on producing the two sections you have as searchable PDF. I have spoken to the owners of the M&SFHF about your project and they would be willing to let M&LFHS have copies of all AVL they hold if the rest that mack holds were also mad available to us all. |
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Post by shred on Oct 19, 2011 11:37:05 GMT
Ben,
That is a kind gesture, if the Manchester and Salford forum are unable to index them I can put you in contact with a very kind gentleman from the M&LFHS who you can speak to.
I cannot answer on other peoples behalf, I have been told that the M&LFHS have been thinking of doing the Manchester AVLs for a while and are willing to approach Manchester Libraries directly for a full copy of the Manchester AVLs.
I think that we all know how difficult it is to start research on a family member who served during the Great War if they have a common name and there isn't any information/heirlooms handed down from family members that give a service number or regiment. These AVLs, if made available, would be a great start for the mens descendents to start that research and remember the men named in them.
"We shall remember them"
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Post by shred on Oct 19, 2011 11:40:40 GMT
May I make it clear that SWARM will not be posting/hosting any of the Manchester AVLs. Whilst we would gladly assist anyone with the aim to making them more widely available.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 13:44:30 GMT
Well this will be a win win situation for everyone.
This way everyone can get a copy and for free i presume?
Fingers crossed M&LFHS get the access to ALL AVL's.
I think we seem to be getting a little off the original topic here?
Tobytyler191148, i would try and check the absent voters list for the address i gave above at the city library, deangate Manchester.
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